What is the Probability of Throwing Two Dice and Getting Specific Numbers?

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The problem involves calculating probabilities related to the outcomes of throwing a pair of dice, specifically focusing on scenarios where one die shows a 6. The questions posed include the probability of the other die showing a 2 and the probability of the total score being greater than 8.

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  • Participants discuss the outcomes of pairs of dice and question the assumptions behind the wording of the problem. There is an exploration of how to count the relevant outcomes and the implications of the phrasing regarding which die shows a 6.

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Some participants have provided attempts at solutions and are questioning the validity of their approaches, particularly regarding the use of probability trees. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem's wording and its impact on the calculations.

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There is a noted ambiguity in the problem statement regarding whether it refers to one specific die showing a 6 or at least one die showing a 6, which affects the interpretation of the probabilities involved.

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Homework Statement



A pair of dice are thrown. If a die show number 6 , what is the probability of (a)another die show number 2? (b) total score for both number greater than 8 ?

for part (a) , my working is 1/6 x 1/6 = 1/36

but actual ans is 2/11 for part (b), the ans is 7/11


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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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desmond iking said:

Homework Statement



A pair of dice are thrown. If a die show number 6 , what is the probability of (a)another die show number 2? (b) total score for both number greater than 8 ?

for part (a) , my working is 1/6 x 1/6 = 1/36

but actual ans is 2/11 for part (b), the ans is 7/11


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The Attempt at a Solution


Write down all the outcome pairs where at least one die shows a 6. How many such pairs do you have? How many of those pairs also include a 2?
 
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(1,6) , (2,6) , (3,6) , (4,6) , (5,6) , (6,6)

one contain (2,6)
 
What about (6,1),(6,2) etc.?
 
LCKurtz said:
What about (6,1),(6,2) etc.?

hi, i got the solution now. but i just can't understand why i can't use the probability tree to get the ans as the photo below?
 

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You drew a tree, but you haven't shown getting an answer to the question using it. What answer do you think the tree is leading you to?
 
desmond iking said:
A pair of dice are thrown. If a die show number 6 , what is the probability of (a)another die show number 2?
Is that the exact wording? If so, it's a terrible question. As LCKurtz presumed, it almost certainly intended "if at least one die shows a 6", but that's not what it says.
It all hinges on the basis for selecting the die showing a six. The wording suggests that the observer picked one die at random and saw that it was a six. That will not give 2/11 as the answer.
 

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