What is the ratio of lengths for two vibrating strings with a beat frequency?

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Two vibrating strings of lengths L1 and L2 produce a beat frequency n when vibrating simultaneously. The fundamental frequency of the shorter string (L1) is denoted as f1, and the relationship between the lengths and frequencies is expressed as (L2 - L1) / L1 = n / (n - f1). The discussion includes confusion about the definition of beat frequency, which is clarified as the absolute difference between the two frequencies, F = |f1 - f2|. Additionally, there is a mathematical exploration of wave equations to understand the beat phenomenon. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in the definitions and relationships between the variables involved.
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Homework Statement


Two strings are stretched tautly parallel to each other. The length of one is L1 and the length of the other is L2(>L1). When both are simultaneously made to undergo fundamental vibration, beats can be heard at a frequency n. The waves in both strings travel at the same speed. Let us denote the fundamental freqency of the string with length L1 as f1.
Find the ratio ##\frac{L_2-L_1}{L_1}##

Homework Equations


The answer is ##\frac{L_2-L_1}{L_1}=\frac{n}{n-f_1}##

The Attempt at a Solution


I have some equation about wave in two strings:
##L_1=\frac{v}{2f_1}##
And
##L_1=i_1\frac{v}{2n};L_2=i_2\frac{v}{2n}##
But I can't solve as answer.
And What does
"When both are simultaneously made to undergo fundamental vibration, beats can be heard at a frequency n" mean?
Thanks for helping .
 
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Look up "beat frequency".
 
The beat frequency means F=|f1-f2| but it is definition or must prove?
 
Hamal_Arietis said:
The beat frequency means F=|f1-f2| but it is definition or must prove?
You can take it as given.
 
I want to prove this equation:
If we have 2 wave: ##y=Acos(2\pi f_1t)## and ##y'=Acos(2\pi f_2t)##
We have
$$x=y+y'=2A(cos(\pi (f_1- f_2)t)cos(\pi (f_1+f_2)t)$$
But why we don't use f=f1+f2 ?
 
Thanks
 
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