What is the reason behind bioluminescent displays in phytoplankton?

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of bioluminescence in phytoplankton, particularly focusing on the visibility of bioluminescent displays under normal conditions versus the need for special equipment. Participants explore examples such as Aequorea victoria and other bioluminescent organisms, discussing the mechanisms and contexts in which these displays occur.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether bioluminescence can be seen under normal circumstances or if special UV light is required, noting that Aequorea victoria typically appears almost invisible.
  • Others share personal experiences of witnessing bioluminescence in natural settings, such as bioluminescent bays.
  • There is a discussion about the visibility of the green ring produced by A. victoria, with some suggesting it is only visible when the organism is disturbed.
  • Participants mention that videos exist showing bioluminescence captured by regular cameras, suggesting that it can be observed without specialized equipment.
  • One participant explains that fluorescence microscopy is used to observe physiological details that the naked eye cannot discern, highlighting the complexity of bioluminescent mechanisms.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of Aquorin, a calcium-activated chemical driver of light emission in jellyfish, and discusses the role of symbiotic bacteria in controlling fluorescence in aquatic organisms.
  • Links to external articles are provided to illustrate the phenomenon of phytoplankton responding to turbulence with bioluminescent displays.

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Participants express differing views on the visibility of bioluminescence under normal conditions and the necessity of specialized equipment, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

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Participants reference specific organisms and mechanisms without reaching consensus on the visibility and conditions under which bioluminescence occurs. The discussion includes assumptions about visibility and the physiological details that can be observed.

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Can we see it under normal circumstances? Or do we need the help of special UV light source to see it? I've read that Aequorea victoria can emit bioluminescence with a ring of green dots at the margin of its bell, but normally it is almost invisible to us. What does that mean?
 
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I've seen it first hand with normal sight at a bioluminescence bay in Puerto Rico.
 
Are you specifically asking about A. victoria or bioluminescence in general? In the latter case the answer is unequivocally yes. The most famous example is probably the firefly, which really are quite something if you ever go to a country that has them.
 
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Are you specifically asking about A. victoria or bioluminescence in general? In the latter case the answer is unequivocally yes. The most famous example is probably the firefly, which really are quite something if you ever go to a country that has them.
About A. victoria.
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I mean, if we can see the green ring under normal circumstances, why would we need a fluorescence microscope? And I read that they don't usually produce the ring, unless they are disturbed? I couldn't quite grasp that
 

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If you look on youtube you can find a few videos, shot by regular cameras, where the bioluminescence can be seen. As for why a microscope would be used it's likely so that you can see more physiological detail than your eye can provide.
 
I have seen it in the Florida Keys, there is an organism (do ask I do not remember) that when you stroke the paddle into the water the volume around the paddle lights up.
 
The (GFP: Green Fluorescent Protein) fluorescence researchers use under a microscope is only one component of what the jellyfish uses. Prior to the isolation of GFP, a large complex (Aquorin) was isolated which is calcium activated and has chemically driven emission of light.
The jellyfish's chemical drivers (chemo-luminescence) aren't often used by researchers because fluorescence is more convenient.
Aquorin used to be used as an intracellular calcium detector, but there are better things for that now.

Aquatic organisms have ways to control when their show their fluorescence so they can turn it off at certain times. This includes a lot of them which have symbiotic bacteria that actually do the fluorescing.
 

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