What is the Relationship between Arc Length and Angle Phi on a Helix?

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The discussion centers on calculating the acceleration of a particle moving on a helix in Earth's gravitational field, with specific parameterization for the helix. Key inquiries include the relationship between arc length and the angle phi, as well as deriving tangents, normals, and the binormal vector using the position vector. Participants suggest considering conserved quantities and alternative coordinate systems to simplify the problem. There is an emphasis on the need for the original poster to demonstrate their efforts before receiving further assistance. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of the physics involved in the scenario.
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Dear physicist,
my task is to calculate the acceleration of a particle of mass m which moves without friction in the Earth's gravitational field on a helix:
The helix is parameterized as shown:

x(\phi)=a cos \phi
y(\phi)=a sin \phi
z(\phi)=c \phi

formed with a radius a,gradient c as constants and the angle \phi which mimics the projection of the radius vector on the x, y plane of the axis x with \phi \in 0<= \phi<\infty

What is the relationship between the arc length s and the angle phi?
Also, I need to derivate the tangents, normals and binormal vector by using \overrightarrow{r}(s)
and calculate the end nor the path velocity (with s (t = 0) = 0, s' (0) = 0).

I'm afraid not to have any approaches to solve the problem :/
I would appreciate every hint.
 
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sitzpillow said:
Dear physicist,
my task is to calculate the acceleration of a particle of mass m which moves without friction in the Earth's gravitational field on a helix:
The helix is parameterized as shown:

x(\phi)=a cos \phi
y(\phi)=a sin \phi
z(\phi)=c \phi

formed with a radius a,gradient c as constants and the angle \phi which mimics the projection of the radius vector on the x, y plane of the axis x with \phi \in 0<= \phi<\infty

What is the relationship between the arc length s and the angle phi?
Also, I need to derivate the tangents, normals and binormal vector by using \overrightarrow{r}(s)
and calculate the end nor the path velocity (with s (t = 0) = 0, s' (0) = 0).

I'm afraid not to have any approaches to solve the problem :/
I would appreciate every hint.

Can you think of a conserved quantity that might make this problem easier?

You may also want to consider velocity expressed in other than Cartesian coordinates (if that isn't giving too much help!).
 
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