What is the relationship between power and dissipated energy in cycling?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between power and dissipated energy in cycling, particularly when a cyclist moves along an incline. The cyclist's mass and changes in speed at different altitudes are used to calculate the dissipated energy, which is determined to be -180 KJ. There is confusion regarding the sign of the dissipated energy, with participants debating whether it should be expressed as -180 KJ or 180 KJ. Additionally, the conversation explores the transition from total energy change (ΔE) to instantaneous power (dE/dt), confirming that this transition is valid as the cyclist's velocity stabilizes. The energy dissipated per unit of time remains constant once the cyclist reaches a steady speed.
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A cyclist is driving along an on an inclined plan with an angle of ## \alpha = 0,04 ##. His mass (including the bike and his stuff) is ## 75 Kg ##.

His speed at an altitude of ## 1200 m ## (1) is ## 50 Km/h ## and after some minutes, he pasts by an altitude of ## 950 m ## (2) with a speed of ## 62 Km/h ##

The image below is an illustration.

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1. What is the dissipated energy of friction?

After a certain point, the cyclist velocity stabilises at ## v = 45 Km/h ##.
2. What is the power of the dissipated energy of friction?

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1. The dissipated energy:

## \Delta E_{m} = E_{2} - E_{1} = m ( \frac{ v^{2}_{2} - v^{2}_{1} }{2} + g(z_{2} - z_{1}) ) = - 180 KJ ##

Should I say that the dissipated energy is ## E = - 180 KJ ## or ## E = 180 KJ ## ?

2. The dissipated power:

We know that: ## P = \frac{dE}{dt} ##

The above equation will become:

## \Delta E_{m} = E_{2} - E_{1} = mg(z_{2} - z_{1}) = mg sin (\alpha)(x_{2} - x_{1})##

Because ## v ## is constant.

For small value we take: ## sin \alpha = \alpha ##, thus: ## \Delta E_{m} = E_{2} - E_{1} = mg\alpha(x_{2} - x_{1})##

I don't see how to past to the derivative of ## E ## the dissipated energy. I mean, I need to have the expression of ## E ## so I can have its derivative.

* Am I allowed to past from ## \Delta E ## to ## dE ##?

* If yes. Dividing by ## dt ## is possible, too? so I can have the derivative?

Thank you for your help.
 
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Hi ZJacob!

I've moved your post to the homework forums. In the future, please make sure you post your homework questions in the appropriate homework forum and use the template provided when creating a post.
 
Anyone? :smile:
 
ZJacob said:
* Am I allowed to past from ## \Delta E## to ##dE## ?

Since the velocity has stabilized at 45 km/h, is the energy dissipated per unit of time changing? If you were to graph the energy dissipated over time, what would that look like? How is ##\frac{dE}{dt}## related to that graph?
 
Drakkith said:
Since the velocity has stabilized at 45 km/h, is the energy dissipated per unit of time changing? If you were to graph the energy dissipated over time, what would that look like? How is ##\frac{dE}{dt}## related to that graph?

* The energy dissipated per unit of time is not changing after the velocity has stabilized since: ## \Delta E_{m} = mg\alpha v ##.

* If I were to graph the energy dissipated, the graph would look like this:
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* ## \frac{dE}{dt} ## is the slope.

Q: Could you please answer my first question about the sign of the dissipated energy? Thank you.
 
ZJacob said:
* ##\frac{dE}{dt}## is the slope.

So what's the slope of a straight line and how does that relate to ##\frac{ΔE}{Δt}##?

ZJacob said:
Q: Could you please answer my first question about the sign of the dissipated energy? Thank you.

I would if I could. :frown:
 
Drakkith said:
So what's the slope of a straight line and how does that relate to ##\frac{ΔE}{Δt}##?

I would if I could. :frown:

The slope of a straight line is: ## \frac{\Delta f}{\Delta x} ##. Also ##\frac{ΔE}{Δt}## represent the rate of change of the energy. Which can also be written as: ## \frac{dE}{dt} ##. So, I'm allowed to past from ## \Delta E_{m}## to ## dE_{m} ##. Correct?

Why? It would be wrong if I wrote: The energy dissipated is: ## E = - 180 KJ ## ? Thank you.
 
ZJacob said:
So, I'm allowed to past from ##\Delta E_{m}## to ##dE_{m}## . Correct?

As far as I know, yes.

ZJacob said:
Why? It would be wrong if I wrote: The energy dissipated is: ##E=−180KJ##?

I'm sorry but I don't know for certain.
 
Drakkith said:
As far as I know, yes.
I'm sorry but I don't know for certain.

Thank you.
 
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