What is the solution for the Pulley System Problem?

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The discussion focuses on solving a pulley system problem involving a mass of 3M and the application of Newton's second law. The user sets up equations for each pulley but realizes there are more unknowns than equations, prompting a consideration of string constraints and energy conservation principles. They explore the initial and final energy states of the system to derive a relationship involving velocities and heights. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding string constraints in solving the problem effectively. Ultimately, the user acknowledges the value of this insight for progressing with the solution.
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Homework Statement


No friction, pulleys and also string are weightless, the tension through the string is distributed uniformly. Find the acceleration of the mass 3M (see image attached)


Homework Equations



II law of Newton

The Attempt at a Solution


Well I wrote such equations for all pulleys (counting pulleys from right to left):
1) M*a1 = T - Mg;
2) M*a2 = 2T - Mg;
4) M*a3 = 2T - Mg;
5) 3M*a = T - 3Mg.

Now we have 1 more unknowns than equations. Any ideas?
 

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Can you make use of the fact that the rope has a fixed length ?
 
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Do you mean energy conservation?

Then, I guess, we could write eq.:
Initial state
E1 = 3Mgh + Mgh

Final state (when 3M descends h):
E_2 = \frac{3Mv^2}{2} + \frac{Mv^2}{2} + 2*\frac{M\frac{v^2}{4}}{2} + 2Mgh + 2*Mgh/2

Keeping in mind that the first mass M ascends h and has velocity v, second and third ascend h/2 and have velocity v/2 and the last one descends h and has velocity v.

Then

E2 = 9/4 Mv^2 + 3Mgh

Is that true? Then the rest is clear :)
 
No, I guess BvU is saying to use string constraints.
A detailed explanation for proceeding, if you don't know what string contraint is, can be found
Part A
Part B
 
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Thanks, that's extremely helpful!
Had no idea about such thing!
 
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