What is the Tension in Each String for a Hanging Ball?

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The problem involves a ball of mass 0.850 kg hanging from two strings at angles of 30 degrees and 45 degrees with the ceiling. Participants are discussing how to determine the tension in each string while ensuring the system is in equilibrium.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the equilibrium conditions, with some attempting to set up equations based on the components of tension and weight. There are questions regarding the use of angles and the setup of equations, particularly concerning the direction of forces and the correct application of trigonometric identities.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants have offered guidance on potential errors in the original poster's approach, while others suggest alternative equations to consider. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method yet.

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Participants note that the system is in equilibrium and question the assumptions made about the angles and the direction of the weight in the equations. There is also mention of a hypothetical scenario involving a ball of twice the weight, which introduces additional considerations.

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Homework Statement


A ball of mass 0.850 kg is dangling as shown. The angle created with String 1 and ceiling is 30 degrees. The angle created with the second and the ceiling is 45 degrees. What is the tension in each string?


Homework Equations


F=ma


The Attempt at a Solution


T1=tension in string 1
T2=tension in string 2
W=weight of ball

I determined the the x and y acceleration to be zero. T1y+T2y=0. and T1x+T2x+W=0. i then used trigonometric identities.

T1y=T1sin(120)
T2y=T2sin(45)

T1x=T1cos(120)
T2x=T2cos(45)
W=8.33N

i then did substitution with the formulas and i found the tension in string 1 to be 6.10 i know this to be correct. and substituting in for the second tension i get 4.31 but i am being told that this is wrong so what exactly am i doing wrong?
 
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dolerka said:
T1=tension in string 1
T2=tension in string 2
W=weight of ball

I determined the the x and y acceleration to be zero. T1y+T2y=0. and T1x+T2x+W=0. i then used trigonometric identities.

T1y=T1sin(120)
T2y=T2sin(45)

T1x=T1cos(120)
T2x=T2cos(45)
W=8.33N

i then did substitution with the formulas and i found the tension in string 1 to be 6.10 i know this to be correct. and substituting in for the second tension i get 4.31 but i am being told that this is wrong so what exactly am i doing wrong?

Suppose, for an experiment, the ball was substituted with one of twice the weight. What would be the tension in the strings?
 
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dolerka said:
I determined the the x and y acceleration to be zero. T1y+T2y=0. and T1x+T2x+W=0. i then used trigonometric identities.

T1y=T1sin(120)
T2y=T2sin(45)

T1x=T1cos(120)
T2x=T2cos(45)
W=8.33N

if y is up, then your W is in the wrong equation :redface:

and whyever are you using 120° ? :confused:
 


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hi dolerka! welcome to pf! :smile:

(have a degree: ° and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)if y is up, then your W is in the wrong equation :redface:

and whyever are you using 120° ? :confused:


bleh yes first time post. and the equation read T1y+T2y=0 should be T1x+T2x=0. and T1x+T2x+W=0 should be T1y+T2y+W=0. also i used 120o only because my book gives an example of a similar problem and also does this but that example on solved for one side.
 
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the system is in equilibrium.
draw components of both the tensions...we get
T2sin30+T1sin45=ma...1
T2cos30=T1cos 45 ...2
solve de 2 eq. to get T1 and t2...please correct me...if i m wrong...i m new here!
 
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Kartikc said:
the system is in equilibrium.
draw components of both the tensions...we get
T2sin30+T1sin45=ma...1
T2cos30=T1cos 45 ...2
solve de 2 eq. to get T1 and t2...

yes, that looks fine :smile:

(with "mg" of course)
 

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