What is the thread's length pulled and the variation factor of velocity?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a ball on a thread moving in a vertical circular motion, where the angle changes from 30º to 60º. The key equations involve tension, weight, and the conservation of angular momentum, which are necessary to determine the length of the thread pulled and the variation in velocity. The participant has attempted to set up equations based on the balance of forces and angular momentum but struggles with the application of conservation principles due to multiple unknowns. Clarification is sought on how to correctly apply angular momentum conservation in this context. The conversation emphasizes the need for a systematic approach to solve the equations derived from the physical principles involved.
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Hello, guys. I'm not a native english speaker, so don't mind if I wrote something incorrectly (if you find any error or difficulty in what I wrote just inform me, please).

A little ball is hold by a thread of negligible mass which moves round a vertical axis with constant velocity. It keeps a distance of 0,5m from the axis when the anglo θ is equal 30º (as shown in the figure uploaded). The thread goes through a little hole O in a slab and it is slowly pulled up until the angle Θ becomes 60º. What is the thread's length pulled? What is the variation factor of velocity?

Homework Equations


L = rxmv, T*senΘ=mv²/R and T*cosΘ-mg = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried solving this question this way:
"let T1 be the tension when θ1=30º, m*g be the weight and v1 be the velocity. Then we can get tg30º = (m*(v1)²/R1)/(mg) = √3/3 => √3/3*g=v²1/R1 (I)
and when Θ=60º we have √3g=v²2/R2. (II)
From these equations I divided I by II:
1/3= (v1/v2)²*R2/R1 and obtained (III). But we threen unknows (v2, R2, v1) and only one equation.

I imagine the angular momentum might conserve in the perpendicular direction to the plane of motion of the mass once it is slowly pulled up, but I have no idea how to apply this.

P.S.: I used R but it is the same in meaning as d in the figure.
 

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You have two equations, (I) and (II). Add to them conservation of angular momentum, and you will have three equations and three unknowns. Solve.
 
That's the problem. I don't know how to apply conservation of angular momentum. I tried M*v1*(R1/tgθ1) = M*v2*(R2/tgθ2) where R/tgθ is the distance from the point O to the plane of motion and it was incorrect. Can you tell me why?
 
You said that ##R## was the same as ##d## in the figure. Then angular momentum is simply ##m v_1 R_1## and ##m v_2 R_2##.
 
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