What is the velocity of the ball after H height? Considering wind resistance?

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The discussion centers around calculating the velocity of a ball dropped from a height H into a water tank, considering air and water resistance. Participants are struggling to apply the relevant physics equations, including F=ma and the drag force equation, to derive the velocity at impact with the water and the bottom of the tank. The problem emphasizes that both air and water resistance are significant factors, complicating the calculations. A suggestion is made to correct the net force equation and to utilize calculus for a proper solution. The overall consensus is that additional guidance or a formula for velocity is needed to resolve the problem effectively.
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I've been trying to figure out this problem for hours my whole group and most of the class is stumped. We understand that we need to relate the equations of F=ma, Fd = (Cd*p*v^2*A)/2, Fnet=Fd-Fg. No data is given. The answer is a V=____ equation. Even just an answer to #1 would be very helpful! Thanks!

1. Homework Statement


A spherical ball of mass m is dropped from a height H above
the surface of a large water tank. The depth of the water below
is D . The ball hits surface of the water and then continues down
into the water tank, eventually coming to rest at the bottom of the
tank. You should assume that air and water resistance are *not*
negligible in this problem.

1. What is the velocity of the ball when it hits the water?

2. What is the velocity of the ball at the moment it hits the bottom of
the tank?

3. Please draw time-aligned graphs of position, velocity, and acceleration of the ball for its
entire trip from the moment it is dropped until the moment it comes to rest at the bottom of the
tank.

Homework Equations



F=ma, Fd = (Cd*p*v^2*A)/2, Fnet=Fd-Fg.

The Attempt at a Solution



All I've got so far is: Fnet = Fg - Fair = mg - kv(t) = ma(t)
 

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TheWhiteKnyt said:
I've been trying to figure out this problem for hours my whole group and most of the class is stumped. We understand that we need to relate the equations of F=ma, Fd = (Cd*p*v^2*A)/2, Fnet=Fd-Fg. No data is given. The answer is a V=____ equation. Even just an answer to #1 would be very helpful! Thanks!

1. Homework Statement


A spherical ball of mass m is dropped from a height H above
the surface of a large water tank. The depth of the water below
is D . The ball hits surface of the water and then continues down
into the water tank, eventually coming to rest at the bottom of the
tank. You should assume that air and water resistance are *not*
negligible in this problem.

1. What is the velocity of the ball when it hits the water?

2. What is the velocity of the ball at the moment it hits the bottom of
the tank?

3. Please draw time-aligned graphs of position, velocity, and acceleration of the ball for its
entire trip from the moment it is dropped until the moment it comes to rest at the bottom of the
tank.

Homework Equations



F=ma, Fd = (Cd*p*v^2*A)/2, Fnet=Fd-Fg.

The Attempt at a Solution



All I've got so far is: Fnet = Fg - Fair = mg - kv(t) = ma(t)

According to the problem statement, the drag force on the ball is proportional to velocity squared, so your equation for Fnet needs correcting.

You won't be able to write your equation for v just by doing algebraic manipulations on the various force quantities. You will have to consult with Mr. Calculus for this problem.
 
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