What is the velocity of the block when it reaches the equilibrium position?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a non-standard spring with a force law of F = -cx^3, where a 3.00 kg block is launched across a frictionless surface. The participants are exploring how to determine the velocity of the block when it reaches the equilibrium position after being released from a compressed state of 0.500 m.

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  • Participants initially attempt to apply equations of motion for simple harmonic motion (SHM) but question their applicability due to the non-standard nature of the spring.
  • Some suggest using conservation of energy to relate the potential energy stored in the spring to the kinetic energy of the block.
  • There is a discussion about the correct interpretation of the spring constant given in N/m³ and how it affects calculations.
  • One participant raises a concern about the negative value obtained for work done by the spring and its implications for kinetic energy.

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The conversation is actively exploring different methods to approach the problem, with some participants providing guidance on using conservation of energy. There is recognition of the challenges posed by the non-standard spring, and attempts to clarify the relationship between work done and potential energy are ongoing.

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Participants note the complexity introduced by the non-standard spring force law and the need to reconsider typical spring equations. There is also mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the conversion of units for the spring constant.

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Homework Statement


This was a question on my 2nd midterm that I am still curious about.

An unusual spring has a force law given by F = -cx^3 where x is in meters, F is in Newton's, and c has units of N/m^3.

The spring is used to launch a 3.00 kg block across a horizontal frictionless surface. If c = 600 N/m^3 and the spring is initially compressed by 0.500 m, what will the velocity of the block be when it reaches the equilibrium position?


Homework Equations


F = ma
x(t) = Acos(ωt)
v(t) = -Aωsin(ωt)
a(t) = -A(ω^2)cos(ωt)

The Attempt at a Solution


First, I find the acceleration with the equation ma = -cx^3 (with the direction positive to the left of the equilibrium position) during initial position because that is where maximum acceleration occurs. I get a value of a = -25m/s^2.

I plug this into the a(t) = -A(ω^2)cos(ωt) with t = 0, and I get a value of ω = 7.071.

Now since I have ω, I can use v(t) = -Aωsin(1) to find maximum speed which occurs at the equilibrium position. I get an answer of 3.54 m/s, which fits into one of the multiple choice questions.

The problem is that the actual answer is 2.50 m/s, and I have no idea what else I can do to solve this.
 
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Instead of trying to use the equations for SHM (do you think they apply?), use conservation of energy. What's the energy stored in the compressed spring?
 
By conservation of energy, all the spring potential turns to kinetic.

0.5cx^2 = 0.5mv^2

The c constant is given in N/m^3 though, and I don't how to convert that to N/m if it's possible.

I try to do that anyways and get a wrong value of v = 7.071, which is by coincidence (?) what I got for ω in my earlier attempt.
 
You missed Doc Al's point. You can't use your normal spring formulas because you're working with a non-standard spring. You need to go back to the basics.
 
This time, I'll use W = ∫Fdx

I find the integral of F, then I get a value of -9.375 for the area under the curve from x = 0 to x = 0.5 therefore ...

W = -9.375J

I'm not sure how to interpret the negative value, but I assume I just use the magnitude of it, and this all gets turned to kinetic energy when the spring reaches equilibrium position.

9.375J = 0.5(3.0kg)v^2
v = 2.5 m/s

Hmm I actually got it this time.. Sure wish I knew how to do integrals back then.
 
You calculated the work done by the spring as it was stretched, which is indeed negative. The potential energy of the spring is negative of the work done by the spring.
 

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