What is the Velocity Ratio in an Elastic Collision?

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In an elastic head-on collision, the ratio of the incident mass to the target mass is 0.5333. The equations governing the collision state that the momentum before and after must be conserved, leading to two key equations. By substituting expressions for the final velocities, the velocity of the incident object after the collision can be calculated as approximately 0.3044 times its initial velocity. The target object's final velocity is about 0.6956 times the incident object's initial velocity. The discussion concludes with the original poster successfully solving the problem with assistance.
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Okay, so my homework question is:

5) An object makes an elastic head-on collision with another "target" object which is initially at rest. If the ratio of incident mass over target mass is 0.5333, what is the velocity of the incident object after the collision in multiples of its incident velocity? Give the result with the appropriate sign taking the incident velocity as positive.

Would any of ya'll be kind enough to help me solve this problem?! Thanks a bunches. :blushing:
 
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lookitzcathy said:
Okay, so my homework question is:

5) An object makes an elastic head-on collision with another "target" object which is initially at rest. If the ratio of incident mass over target mass is 0.5333, what is the velocity of the incident object after the collision in multiples of its incident velocity? Give the result with the appropriate sign taking the incident velocity as positive.

Use the fact that in an elastic collision the relative speeds are the same before and after the collision (speed of approach = speed of separation after collision).

m_1v_{1i} = m_1v_{1f} + \frac{m_1}{.5333}v_{2f}

and:

v_{1i} - 0 = v_{1f} - v_{2f}

Two equations and two variables should be all you need to express an answer in terms of v_{1i}

AM
 
Andrew Mason said:
Use the fact that in an elastic collision the relative speeds are the same before and after the collision (speed of approach = speed of separation after collision).

m_1v_{1i} = m_1v_{1f} + \frac{m_1}{.5333}v_{2f}

and:

v_{1i} - 0 = v_{1f} - v_{2f}

Two equations and two variables should be all you need to express an answer in terms of v_{1i}

AM

hey... yea, i got that equation too... but I'm still unsure of how i will be able to find the velocity by just knowing the "ratio" of the incident mass over target mass. :confused: sigh*
 
lookitzcathy said:
hey... yea, i got that equation too... but I'm still unsure of how i will be able to find the velocity by just knowing the "ratio" of the incident mass over target mass. :confused: sigh*


(1)m_1v_{1i} = m_1v_{1f} + \frac{m_1}{.5333}v_{2f}

and:

(2)v_{1i} - 0 = -(v_{1f} - v_{2f}) (I forgot the minus sign before)


Substitute expression for v1f from (2) into (1):

m_1v_{1i} = m_1(v_{2f} - v_{1i} + \frac{1}{.5333}v_{2f})


2m_1v_{1i} = m_1v_{2f}(1 + \frac{1}{.5333})

v_{2f} = v_{1i}\frac{1.0666}{1.5333} = .6956v_{1i}

from (2):

v_{1f} = (1 - .6956)v_{1i} = .3044v_{1i}

AM
 
o wow i got it... thank you so much!
 
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