What is the Vertical Velocity of a Rope Sliding off a Peg?

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The problem involves a 2.5 kg rope hanging over a frictionless peg, with 0.8 m on one side and 0.4 m on the other. The initial approach used conservation of energy to calculate the vertical velocity as the rope slides off the peg, but the initial potential energy calculation was incorrect due to not accounting for the mass distribution. The correct method involves adjusting the potential energy based on the center of mass's fall, factoring in the ratio of the lengths on each side of the peg. The final velocity calculation, after correcting for these factors, leads to a more accurate result. Understanding the role of mass distribution is crucial for solving similar problems involving ropes and pulleys.
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Homework Statement



A limp rope with a mass of 2.5 kg and a length of 1.2 m is hung, initially at rest, on a frictionless peg that has a negligible radius. The rope is hung such that 0.8m hangs off the longer end, and 0.4m off the lower end. What is the vertical velocity of the rope just as the end slides off the peg?

Homework Equations



PE = mgh
KE = 1/2mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Because the kinematics of this system seemed incredibly complicated, I figured it best to use conservation of energy in the system. Knowing that the center of mass will fall 0.4 meters, I assumed:

mgΔH = 1/2mv^2
2.5*9.81*0.4 = 1/2*2.5*v^2
v = 2.8 m/s

Unfortunately, this seems to be incorrect. I assume this has something to do with the counterweight applied by the short end of the rope, but I'm not sure how to account for this.
 
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Aha, got it! I knew the initial problem had to do with my initial potential energy, so I realized I could set it equal to:

PE = mh*g(0.8/1.2)

As the initial acceleration is dependent upon the ratio of mass at any given end and gravity. Using this, I could go straight to kinetic energy and solve.
 
The second attempt has the correct initial C. M.
 
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