What Machines Can Determine the Composition of Carbon Ions?

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The discussion centers on the nature of carbon ions and their characteristics. Participants clarify that "carbon ions" could refer to carbide ions, such as C2-2, which are formed through high-temperature reactions between carbon and certain metals. There is confusion regarding the classification of carbon compounds, particularly in distinguishing between ions and covalent bonds. It is noted that carbon can form both negative ions, like carbide, and positive ions, but CO2 is not classified as an ion. The conversation also touches on the behavior of other nonmetals, like nitrogen and oxygen, in relation to ion formation and bonding. The complexities of hydrocarbons and their bonding mechanisms are acknowledged, emphasizing that covalent bonding occurs without the involvement of ions in C-H bonds.
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what is your knowledge about carbon ions? is there a machine that determines its creature?
 
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maria curie said:
what is your knowledge about carbon ions? is there a machine that determines its creature?
What are you asking exactly?
 
By "carbon ion" do you mean carbide, C2-2? eg as in CaC2 or Na2C2. Metallic carbides are made by reacting carbon with the desired oxide or cyanamide at high temperatures.
 
I think carbon is a bit strange... You do get carbide ions but then you also positive ions such as CO2. I am unsure how hydrocarbons form though and if the carbon has a negative ion or a positive (the hydrogen must have the positive, or does it?)
 
CO2 is not an ion.
 
In hydrocarbons, covalent bonding occurs. There's no ions involved between the C-H bonds.

itsjustme said:
I think carbon is a bit strange... You do get carbide ions but then you also positive ions such as CO2.

The same thing occurs with many other nonmetals like nitrogen, oxygen.
 

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