What type of motor for an electric scooter?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate motor type for building an electric scooter, focusing on the choice between AC and DC motors, battery power considerations, and motor sizing. The context includes practical applications for a physics for engineers class.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether to use AC or DC motors for a battery-powered electric scooter.
  • Another participant suggests that since batteries provide DC power, a DC motor would be a reasonable choice to reduce complexity and cost.
  • A third participant agrees that a DC motor is likely the simplest option and recommends using lithium-ion batteries for their high energy density, along with a regenerative braking system to enhance efficiency.
  • Another contributor emphasizes that using an inverter to convert DC to AC would waste energy, supporting the choice of a DC motor and suggesting specific motor options from wheelchair applications.
  • One participant highlights that the design process should prioritize battery selection first, as the battery's storage capacity will define the scooter's range and effectiveness, before choosing a suitable motor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a DC motor is preferable for this application due to energy efficiency and compatibility with battery power. However, there are varying opinions on the specifics of motor selection and the importance of battery choice in the design process.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about motor specifications and battery capabilities are not fully explored, and there is a lack of consensus on the optimal motor size and type beyond the general preference for DC motors.

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What type of motor for an electric scooter!?

Im trying to build an electric scooter for my physics for engineers class.
I'm having trouble decidin on using AC or DC motors
it needs to be battery powered.
does anyone have advice?
 
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A.Haba said:
Im trying to build an electric scooter for my physics for engineers class.
I'm having trouble decidin on using AC or DC motors
it needs to be battery powered.
does anyone have advice?

Batteries provide DC power so it would seem reasonable to select a DC motor to keep complexity and cost down.

CS
 


I agree, DC motor is probably the simplest option in this case. As for sizing it, download this application from MAXON motors, pretty cool:
http://www.maxonmotor.com/downloads.asp
You could probably buy and entire system from them, although it will cost you;) But at least you should get an idea of what size of motor and gearbox you need. For power go for lithium-ion batteries which have a very high energy density, so longest range for your scooter.
If you are good in power electronics, you can make a re-gen braking system to charge your batteries back up instead of wasting all your kinetic energy as heat;)
 


Agreed... DC is the way to go. You would waste a huge amount of energy if you ran your batteries through an inverter to get AC. I have a few 12VDC motors from wheelchairs that put out 1/2 HP. That should be plenty for a scooter, and remember that you can alter your gearing for max torque or speed.
 


There are a lot of motors out there. One for almost any application. Personal electric transportation gadgets tend to be limited by available storage capacity, not the motor.
Since your ability to take power with you wil define the range, and usefulness of the thing you should start your design pocess with the battery. When you've found the best battery you can get, then go looking for a motor that's stout enough to take you down the road.
 

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