What was most helpful understanding Signals and Systems?

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A third-year electrical engineering student is seeking advice on understanding Signals and Systems (S&S), particularly struggling with fundamental concepts like LTI vs. LTV systems and BIBO stability. Forum members suggest that familiarity with linear algebra is crucial for grasping these concepts. They recommend using MATLAB, especially its signal processing and communications toolboxes, as a valuable tool for practical understanding. Emphasis is placed on developing intuition for the application of mathematical concepts and relating them to real-world scenarios. Understanding the time and frequency domains is also highlighted as essential for mastering transforms like FFT and Laplace. Members encourage the student to contextualize these transforms within harmonic analysis to better interpret their significance and applications.
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Hey guys! This is my first day on the forum so, hey! I'm a third year electrical engineering student and I'm really having some trouble with Signals and Systems so I want to know what helped other people understand it so that maybe I could try some of their methods.

What were your biggest conceptual hurdles and what helped you get over them? What tools or methods help you understand S&S more holistically and what just made it easier to do?

Thanks all!
 
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Operational mathematics... otherwise known as transform calculus (FFT, Laplace etc...)
 
Hello, welcome to forum.

Your question is rather broad, just what part of the course are you having difficulty with? Are you decent using linear algebra, it's generally pretty important for the subject. Other than that, some specific questions would help garner more replies I reckon.

As far as tools, a lot of students will use Matlab for their S&S courses. So becoming familiar with the signal processing and communications toolboxes and general Matlab syntax can be helpful.
 
Student100 said:
Hello, welcome to forum.

Your question is rather broad, just what part of the course are you having difficulty with? Are you decent using linear algebra, it's generally pretty important for the subject. Other than that, some specific questions would help garner more replies I reckon.

As far as tools, a lot of students will use Matlab for their S&S courses. So becoming familiar with the signal processing and communications toolboxes and general Matlab syntax can be helpful.

Thanks for the replies guys,

I suppose the types of concepts that I'm having the most trouble grasping are the most fundamental ones such as what is an LTI vs LTV System? Also BIBO stability is one that I've had a hard time grasping. I will try to become more familiar with Matlab, hopefully that will assist in a more in depth comprehension of some of these concepts. Thanks!
 
Dr Transport said:
Operational mathematics... otherwise known as transform calculus (FFT, Laplace etc...)

Honestly FFT and Laplace transformations are pretty simple to me. I think the I just have a hard time grasping what these transforms translate to in practical application (e.g filter/signal types)
 
Hello Woa90210, welcome to PF. Third year here. I survived S&S...:oldbiggrin:
Well yes, If you are really bent on completely understanding S&S practically in third year, you need a decent dose of intuition! :DD
Nothing much, learn Matlab well, it's a boon for S&S students like you.
You need to be imaginative enough, and understand the application of mathematics you have learned till date.
Whenever you feel stuck, try putting that scenario on a system you are already familiar.
Then relate the math that comes out of it with the real time output.
Spend time understanding concepts in time and frequency domains, probably you need to be good at this, if you want to understand transforms.
 
PhysicoRaj said:
Hello Woa90210, welcome to PF. Third year here. I survived S&S...:oldbiggrin:
Well yes, If you are really bent on completely understanding S&S practically in third year, you need a decent dose of intuition! :DD
Nothing much, learn Matlab well, it's a boon for S&S students like you.
You need to be imaginative enough, and understand the application of mathematics you have learned till date.
Whenever you feel stuck, try putting that scenario on a system you are already familiar.
Then relate the math that comes out of it with the real time output.
Spend time understanding concepts in time and frequency domains, probably you need to be good at this, if you want to understand transforms.

Thanks soooo much PhisicoRaj! This is more so what I was looking for :) Thanks a ton. Gonna spend some more time in the beginning chapters of my S&S book and more time with MATLAB. Thanks again!
 
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Hey Woa90210.

If you understand what the basis of these transforms represent and put them in context then it should be a lot easier to interpret how the space organizes information and what the coefficients of each space represent.

This is for any sort of harmonic analysis space/transform (Fourier, Laplace, Wavelets, etc).

What is happening is you are projecting information to a basis, doing something in a new space and then often reconstructing the new information.

Many spaces deal with certain kinds of "frequencies" but there are many kinds of spaces that signals can be projected to with all interesting properties.
 
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