What was the speed of the object when it was released from the table?

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The problem involves determining the speed of an object as it is released from a table after being pushed. The object slides off the table and falls a certain distance, landing a specified distance away from the edge of the table. The context includes concepts of kinematics, friction, and energy conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss calculating the time of fall and the horizontal velocity as the object leaves the table. There are attempts to relate initial velocity to energy considerations and friction effects. Some participants question the accuracy of calculations and the significance of rounding errors.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different methods and insights into the problem. Some suggest that the original poster may have misunderstood a concept rather than simply making a rounding error. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants note the importance of significant figures in the calculations, particularly due to the provided measurements in the problem. There is also mention of the coefficient of kinetic friction affecting the calculations.

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Homework Statement



A popular pastime is to see who can push an object closest to the edge of a table without its going off. You push the 100 g object and release it 2.20 m from the table edge. Unfortunately, you push a little too hard. The object slides across, sails off the edge, falls 0.500 m to the floor, and lands 25.0 cm from the edge of the table.

If the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.300, what was the object's speed as you released it?

Homework Equations




y = (1/2)*g*t^2 therefore t = (2*y/g)^(1/2)
x = v2*t therefore x = v2*(2*y/g)^(1/2)

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I worked everything out and I got 3.60 m/s for the speed when released but my online homework program says "Not quite. Check through your calculations; you may have made a rounding error or used the wrong number of significant figures." I checked my work and I am not sure where I went wrong.

Here are the values I got

V2=.7836 m/s velocity when it leaves the table
T(3-2) time it takes to hit the ground once leaving the table=.319 sec
A0=-2.94m/s^2
V0=3.5966

To find V0 I used X1=(-Vox^2)/(2Ax) then solved for Vox any insight as to where I went wrong?
 
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I thought I'd give this problem a shot, so here it goes. First, I find the time it takes for the object to hit the ground once its off the edge of the table:

0.500 m = (1/2) (9.8 m/s^2) t^2 -> t = Sqrt(1/9.81) -> t = 3.19E-1 s

next, I solve for the velocity in the x direction as the object leaves the table:

.25 m = Vedge (3.19E-1 s) -> Vedge = .25/3.19E-1 -> Vedge = 7.83E-1 m/s

Here is where it gets fuzy, I solved for Vinitial in terms of energy:

(1/2) m Vinitial^2 - F d = 1/2 m Vedge^2 -> Vinitial = Sqrt(Vedge^2 +2 Fd/m)
with Fd/m = (mue) g d = .3*9.8*2.20

So Vinitial = Sqrt((7.83E-1)^2 + 2(6.468)) = 3.68 m/s

Assuming I'm right, your answer is close. You probably rounded off at some point. I think significant figures are only 2, due to .25 being given, so the answer would round off to 3.7? Significant figures are not my strong point. Take this with a grain of salt.
 
Yes. You should be using v0^2-v2^2=2*a*x.
 
bhimberg is correct. You should be taking the difference of the velocities squared equal to 2*a*x. It's not round off, it's a concept problem.
 

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