What's Wrong with My Biot-Savart Law Calculation?

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The discussion centers on the correct application of the Biot-Savart Law to calculate the magnetic field around a wire carrying a steady current. The user is confused about whether to represent the position vector in spherical coordinates as including the azimuthal component or not. It is clarified that the correct representation should exclude the azimuthal term, as it does not contribute to the magnetic field in this context. The importance of understanding the unit vector in spherical coordinates is emphasized, noting that the position vector should only include the radial component. The user is encouraged to visualize the vector components to grasp the reasoning behind this conclusion.
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1. Homework Statement

One must simply calculate the magnetic field at a distance s to the wire, which carries a steady current I

Homework Equations


Should I write the point vector as:
\mathbf{r} = s\hat{s} + \phi \hat{\phi} + z \hat{z}
or
\mathbf{r} = s\hat{s} + z \hat{z} ?

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not solving it as the author does. I am trying to use spherical coordinates, therefore I am writing:
\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r}) = \frac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\int_{-\infty}^\infty{\frac{d\mathbf{l'} \times (\mathbf{r} - \mathbf{r'})}{|(\mathbf{r} - \mathbf{r'})|^{3/2}}}


Where:
d\mathbf{l'} = dz \hat{z}
\mathbf{r} - \mathbf{r'} = s \hat{s} + z \hat{z} - z'\hat{z} = s \hat{s} + (z-z')\hat{z}

and the answer is fine:
\mathbf{B}(\mathbf{r}) = \frac{\mu_0}{4\pi} \frac{2 I}{s} \hat{\phi}

But, if I consider the vector as:
\mathbf{r} = s\hat{s} + \phi \hat{\phi} + z \hat{z}

(it seems to me more general) The answer has a component in the s-direction, which is incorrect.

Please, what is wrong in my reasoning?
 
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Aroldo said:
But, if I consider the vector as:
\mathbf{r} = s\hat{s} + \phi \hat{\phi} + z \hat{z}

(it seems to me more general) The answer has a component in the s-direction, which is incorrect.

If you draw a figure that attempts to show how the three terms ## s\hat{s} + \phi \hat{\phi} + z \hat{z}## combine to give ##\mathbf{r}##, you'll see why the ## \phi \hat{\phi}## term should not be included. It is important to understand the meaning of the unit vector ##\hat{s}##.

Note that in spherical coordinates ##(r, \theta, \phi)##, the position vector is just ##\mathbf{r} = r \hat{r}##. It is not ##\mathbf{r} = r \hat{r} + \theta \hat{\theta}+\phi \hat{\phi}##
 
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TSny said:
If you draw a figure that attempts to show how the three terms ## s\hat{s} + \phi \hat{\phi} + z \hat{z}## combine to give ##\mathbf{r}##, you'll see why the ## \phi \hat{\phi}## term should not be included. It is important to understand the meaning of the unit vector ##\hat{s}##.

Note that in spherical coordinates ##(r, \theta, \phi)##, the position vector is just ##\mathbf{r} = r \hat{r}##. It is not ##\mathbf{r} = r \hat{r} + \theta \hat{\theta}+\phi \hat{\phi}##
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