When and How to Solve ODEs: Clarity for Confused Students

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the methods for solving ordinary differential equations (ODEs) and the conditions under which each method is applicable. Participants seek clarity on the appropriate contexts for using different trial functions in ODE solutions, specifically comparing polynomial and exponential forms.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about when to use different methods for solving ODEs and requests clarification.
  • Another participant suggests that providing examples could help clarify the choice of trial functions, specifically recommending the exploration of ##x^m## and ##e^{mx}## as potential trial functions.
  • A later reply indicates that the exponential function ##y=e^{mx}## is appropriate for ODEs with constant coefficients, while the polynomial function ##y=x^m## is suggested for Cauchy-Euler equations.
  • Another participant explains that the derivatives of ##e^{ax}## maintain the same form, which is why they are solutions to linear differential equations with constant coefficients, while derivatives of ##x^a## yield different powers, making them suitable for equations with variable coefficients.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to clarify the use of trial functions for ODEs, and multiple viewpoints regarding the applicability of different methods remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks specific examples of ODEs being analyzed, which may limit the clarity of the proposed methods. Additionally, the definitions of Cauchy-Euler equations and constant coefficient ODEs are not fully explored.

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when to use e^mx and x^m
I know how to solve ODEs using both methods. The problem I'm having is knowing when to use one and not the other. If someone could help clarify this for me. I can't find the correct section in my textbook.
 
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Hello ABearon, :welcome: !

Bit hard to answer without examples. Perhaps you can provide an example for yourself by going the other way: try to compose an exercise where ##x^m## is a useful trial function and another example where ##e^{mx}## is a good choice. Not too hard: simply differentiate and see what kind of DE you can make form the result !
 
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Hello ABearon, :welcome: !

Bit hard to answer without examples. Perhaps you can provide an example for yourself by going the other way: try to compose an exercise where ##x^m## is a useful trial function and another example where ##e^{mx}## is a good choice. Not too hard: simply differentiate and see what kind of DE you can make form the result !
I think i figured it out. We're supposed to use y=e^mx when the ode has constant coefficients (a, b, c) and y=x^m for Cauchy-Euler equations, which are ODEs but the terms have have a-sub-n(x^n)(d^n y/dx^n)
 
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The derivatives of e^{ax} are all of the form e^{ax} again. That is why they are solutions to linear differential equations with constant coefficients. The derivatives of x^a are of the form x^b with b< a. That is why the are solutions to linear differential equations with powers of x as coefficients.
 
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