When is friction and weight parallel positive and negative?

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In physics, when analyzing forces on inclines, the choice of positive and negative directions is flexible and depends on the defined coordinate system. For inclined planes, it is common to align axes with the incline, often making the downward direction negative, but this can be reversed. When a box moves down an incline, friction can be considered positive, while the parallel weight is typically negative, though the perpendicular weight can also be defined as positive based on the chosen coordinate system. The normal force and perpendicular weight must balance each other, influencing their signs. Understanding this flexibility in sign assignment is crucial for correctly applying Newton's second law.
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When writing Fnet=ma you are supposed to list the forces in Fnet
-Ffriction + Weightparallel= ma

how do you know when to put the negative or positve sign in front of the values? like on inclines and horizontal surfaces

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You get to choose which direction is positive and which is negative. Typically, for inclines you choose axes that are aligned with the incline, and the direction down the ramp is most often negative, but you can choose down the ramp to be positive and up to be negative just as well.
 
JaWiB said:
You get to choose which direction is positive and which is negative. Typically, for inclines you choose axes that are aligned with the incline, and the direction down the ramp is most often negative, but you can choose down the ramp to be positive and up to be negative just as well.

ok so if a box is going down an incline, friction can be positive, but then weight parallel and weight perpendicular have to be negative right?
 
Weight parallel has to be negative, yes, but why does the perpendicular weight have to be negative? You can define it as positive if you want.
 
ideasrule said:
Weight parallel has to be negative, yes, but why does the perpendicular weight have to be negative? You can define it as positive if you want.

yeah your right. It depends if you make the normal force positive. They have to balance each other out. I understand now. thank you so much for your help, it was great :)
 
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