When would a circuit be nonohmic ?

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The discussion centers around the conditions under which a circuit can be considered "nonohmic," exploring the limitations of Ohm's law and examples of nonohmic behavior in electrical components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the universality of Ohm's law, suggesting that it may not apply in all cases.
  • Another participant points to diodes as an example of nonohmic behavior, where the current does not increase linearly with voltage.
  • A further explanation indicates that Ohm's law arises from empirical observations and that conductivity can vary with material and conditions, leading to non-linear responses.
  • One participant describes a practical demonstration involving a capacitor and resistor to illustrate nonohmic properties, hinting at the potential for failure when exceeding rated values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of Ohm's law, with some acknowledging its limitations and others providing examples that challenge its universality. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent and nature of nonohmic behavior.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific conditions under which nonohmic behavior occurs, such as the behavior of diodes and the effects of exceeding component ratings, but do not reach a consensus on a comprehensive definition or framework for nonohmic circuits.

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When would a circuit be "nonohmic"?

When would a circuit be "nonohmic"? I always thought Ohm's law was universal.

Thanks ahead of time o:)
 
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Have you seen diode in action?
 


Ohm's law is not at all universal, it just comes from the empirical observation that the current density J which arises in a conductor due to the prescence an external electric field E will usually itself be proportional to the applied electric field:

[tex]\vec{J} = \sigma \vec{E}[/tex]

Where [itex]\sigma[/itex] is called the 'conductivity' of that particular conductor, and this conductivity is 'universl' for the particuar material e.g. copper (at a certan temperature). Two generalizations are possible: sometimes the response of the material is not linear, and so the relationship is not simple proportionality; in a diode, it is possile to apply an electric field below a certain threshold strength and in a particular direction and have the output current be zero. Another possible generalization is that the electric field and the current desity do not have to be parallel, for example in crystal that has its own preferred directions for conduction channels.
 


Borek said:
Have you seen diode in action?

Heh, another fun example is take a capacitor rated for say 5 V or a resistor rated for 0.25 mW and hook them up to a voltage source. Now slowly increase the voltage and see what happens. Well... maybe I shouldn't recommend that you intentionally see what happens but I'm sure you can guess how it is a one time demonstration of non-ohmic properties.
 

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