Where is all the places that QM and SR/GR disagree?

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In summary, the conversation discussed the conflicts between quantum mechanics and general relativity, with the main issue being that neither theory works in all situations. Quantum mechanics explains the behavior of particles and their interactions, while general relativity explains gravity as a curvature of space-time. These two theories have different perspectives on the nature of forces and the laws of physics. However, a complete understanding of these conflicts would require more information about the person's education level and purpose for seeking this information.
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Im very misinformed on this,and I was struggling whether to put this in the Quantum section,or Relativity.Please don't use advanced mathematics,and put everything into simple words for me,I can understand a bit of physics vocabulary so that is okay.
 
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QM and SR aren't in conflict. The problem is with GR, and then it's not so much that they disagree as that neither one works everywhere. Quantum mechanics and its extension to quantum field theories work just fine in any problem in which the gravitational effects are small. General relativity works just fine in any problem in which the quantum mechanical effects are small. But we still don't have a completely satisfactory theory that works when neither the gravitational nor the quantum effects are small - for example, near the "center" of a black hole.
 
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The specific places they disagree require higher maths to appreciate - it is not that they cannot be phrased just using English but that it is too easy to misunderstand the normal-language version. That is why we use maths, and why we have jargon. Just try explaining Newton's Laws of motion to a five-year-old using only words they understand.

So what is your education level?

Bearing that in ind, I can give you a basic, in a nutshell, idea of where the conflicts arise.

There are four fundamental forces in classical mechanics ... these are: electromagnetic, strong nuclear, weak nuclear, and gravitational.

QM gives us Quantum Field Theory which gives us the Standard Model of Particle Physics ... this models the fundamental forces as interactions between particles, the forces themselves, the rules you may be used to from secondary school, are what happens on average over a very large number of these interactions. In this picture, the laws of physics are statistical - lots of randomness and things happening with no cause, though cause and effect do happen.

GR models gravity as a pseudoforce emerging from the curvature of space-time associated with the distribution of energy. Much like the centrifugal force is a pseudoforce arising from rotation. Mass happens to be a very high concentration of energy so it has a strong effect on the appearance of gravity. In this picture, forces could be described as a form of geometry - and the laws of physics are deterministic in the sense that cause and effect is an illusion created by our relationship with the dimension of time.

See how these two pictures are fundamentally at odds with each other?

This is by no means complete.

A more detailed answer would need extra information, like your education level and what you want the answer for.
Like: do I suggest MIT open courseware lectures? There is a very good series on how classical mechanics works, for example. But if your physics is at the junior secondary school level there is no point.
 

1. Where do the theories of quantum mechanics and special/general relativity disagree?

The main disagreement between quantum mechanics (QM) and special/general relativity (SR/GR) lies in their fundamental principles and the scales at which they operate. QM deals with the behavior of particles at the subatomic level, while SR/GR describes the behavior of objects at larger scales. This means that the two theories have different ways of explaining the physical world, and they cannot be reconciled into one unified theory.

2. How does the concept of time differ between QM and SR/GR?

In QM, time is considered to be continuous and absolute, meaning that it flows at a constant rate for all observers. However, in SR/GR, time is relative and can be affected by the motion and gravity of objects. This leads to the concept of time dilation, where time can appear to move slower or faster depending on the observer's frame of reference. This fundamental difference in the understanding of time is a major source of disagreement between QM and SR/GR.

3. Do QM and SR/GR have different predictions for the behavior of particles?

Yes, they do. QM predicts that particles can exist in multiple states simultaneously, known as superposition, and can exhibit non-local behavior (entanglement) where two particles can affect each other instantaneously over any distance. On the other hand, SR/GR predicts that particles have definite properties and cannot influence each other faster than the speed of light. These different predictions have been tested through experiments, and they have been shown to be accurate for their respective scales.

4. Can QM and SR/GR be used together to explain the Universe?

No, they cannot. While both QM and SR/GR are successful in their own domains, they are not compatible with each other. Attempts to combine the two theories have resulted in mathematical inconsistencies and paradoxes. This has led to the search for a new theory of quantum gravity that can reconcile the two and provide a complete understanding of the Universe.

5. Are there any real-world implications of the disagreement between QM and SR/GR?

Yes, there are. The most notable implication is the lack of a unified theory of physics that can explain both the microscopic and macroscopic worlds. This has hindered our understanding of the fundamental workings of the Universe and has also limited our technological advancements. Additionally, the disagreement between QM and SR/GR has led to open questions in physics, such as the nature of dark matter and the origin of the Universe, which remain unsolved to this day.

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