Where to Stand in a Water Tank Experiment to Experience Minimal Wave Action?

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The discussion revolves around a water tank experiment involving wave interference, where participants are trying to determine the optimal position to stand in order to experience minimal wave action. The problem involves parameters such as wave fronts, distances between openings, and nodal lines.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the distance from the bisector to the nodal line and the parameters of the experiment. There are attempts to clarify the correct application of equations related to wave interference and nodal lines.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided alternative approaches and questioned the assumptions made regarding the angles involved in the calculations. There is ongoing exploration of different methods to arrive at the position for minimal wave action, with no clear consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants note discrepancies between their calculations and those found in solution manuals, highlighting potential differences in the data sets used. There is also mention of the limitations of certain formulas under specific conditions, which may affect the accuracy of the results.

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Homework Statement


In a large water tank experiment, water waves are generated with straight, parallel wave fronts, 3.00 m apart. The wave fronts pass through two openings 5.00 m apart in a long board. The end of the tank is 3.00 m beyond the board. Where would you stand, relative to the perpendicular bisector of the line between the openings, if you want to receive little or no wave action?

Homework Equations


Xn/L = (n-0.5)wavelength/d

n is the number of the nodal line, xn is the distance from the bisector to the point on the nodal line, d is the distance between both sources and L is the distance from the midpoint of both sources to the point on the nodal line.

The Attempt at a Solution


For little to no wave action I know the person has to be standing on a nodal line, and the distance from the right bisector to that point would be Xn.

What I've gathered from the question is that the wave length is 3m, d=5m, and L = 3m, and I think n is 1.
However, when I use these numbers i get an answer of 0.9m, when the answer in the back of the book is 1.25m.

This is the answer in the solution manual and I have no clue how they got the wavelength to be 1m, the d to be 2m and the L to be 5m. Help is appreciated.

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hamza2095 said:

Homework Equations


Xn/L = (n-0.5)wavelength/d

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It does appear that the solution is for a different set of data.

The equation Xn/L = (n-0.5)wavelength/d, which is equivalent to the equation used in the solution, is accurate only for "small angles". It would be better to use formulas that don't assume small angles. For example, using the data in the solution, the more accurate answer would be 1.29 m rather than 1.25 m.
 
TSny said:
It does appear that the solution is for a different set of data.

The equation Xn/L = (n-0.5)wavelength/d, which is equivalent to the equation used in the solution, is accurate only for "small angles". It would be better to use formulas that don't assume small angles. For example, using the data in the solution, the more accurate answer would be 1.29 m rather than 1.25 m.

Were the values I concluded from the problem correct?, and what formula was used to get the answer of 1.29m?
 
If the screen is "far" from the slits (L >> d) then there is a formula for the angle θ representing the direction to the first minimum (destructive interference). This formula is based on the "path difference" from the two slits being approximated as d⋅sin θ. Using the condition on the path difference for a minimum, you can calculate θ. Then, using geometry, you can find the distance from the perpendicular bisector to the location of the minimum at the end of the tank.

This is how I got my result of 1.29 m. However, I now realize that the assumption L >> d does not hold in your problem. So, d⋅sin θ is not accurate for the path difference.

Using geometry you can find an accurate expression for the path difference, but it is more complicated. If I redo the calculation without any approximations, I get 1.31 m for the data given in the solution.

Since the solution uses the approximate formula, I would guess that you are OK with working the problem as you did. But, keep in mind that your answer is only an approximation. Without approximation, I get 1.21 m instead of 0.90 m. So, you can see that your approximated answer is not very accurate.
 

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