Which angle is theta and when do I use sin or cos?

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The discussion revolves around understanding when to use sine or cosine in the context of resolving components of forces, particularly in relation to gravity and trigonometric principles. Participants express confusion about the application of trigonometric functions in physics problems, especially in the absence of clear guidance from their classes.

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  • Participants explore the reasoning behind using sine or cosine based on the definitions of angles and coordinates. Some question the interchangeability of these functions and seek clarification on specific examples of their application.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the definitions of angles and the use of trigonometric functions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of consistent definitions, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to understanding the concepts discussed.

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Not a direct problem but this is a homework related question so I'm posting it here. When getting components with respect to gravity it is often intuitive, this isn't always the case. None of my classes thus far have talked about why when to use sin or cos, they just do. I'm wondering how I can figure this out when the answer isn't obvious.
 
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You can use either as long as your use of them is consistent (because sin(θ) = cos(θ+90°) so it just depends on how you define your coordinates)

It's hard to abstractly explain which to use without a specific question, but if it confuses you then you should re-study some trigonometry. (It's a lack of understanding of trigonometry that makes it confusing, not a lack of understanding of physics.)
 
They don't seem interchangeable. Here's a specific problem I just did (and got right). Is the way I used trig towards the top correct (I reasoned that the component passes though the adjacent and hypotenuse so it must be cos)?

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As you were told, it all depends on how you define your coordinates and where does your angle start (or how it is measured). It doesn't mean sin and cos are interchangeable.

No idea what is given and what you are trying to calculate, so hard to comment on what you did.
 
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They don't seem interchangeable. Here's a specific problem I just did (and got right). Is the way I used trig towards the top correct (I reasoned that the component passes though the adjacent and hypotenuse so it must be cos)?

wow I just spent 10 minutes writing a reply explaining everything and I accidently closed the tab. Basically your teacher was just decomposing the forces into their x and y components to apply Newton's laws. If you have a right angled triangle with angles \phi and \theta then the cos of \theta = the sin of \phi. They are interchangeable.

watch this https://www.khanacademy.org/math/tr...ometry/basic_trig_ratios/v/basic-trigonometry
 
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which angle is called theta (θ)?

If it is the angle of the beam with respect to the horizontal the equation for the torque ( τ ) is correct. Torque is force multiplied with the lever of arm, the distance of the line of force from the rotation axis.

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