Which has a greater impact of force?

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In the discussion, participants analyze the impact force of two collision scenarios: a head-on crash between two identical cars and a crash into a stationary brick wall, both at 30 miles per hour. The consensus is that the impact force is the same in both cases, as the change in momentum and collision time are identical. Newton's third law is referenced to support the idea that the forces exerted in both collisions are equal. Participants acknowledge the complexity of real-life scenarios but emphasize the problem's parameters. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding impulse and momentum in physics.
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Consider two less-than-desirable options. In the first you are driving 30 miles/hr and crash head-on into an identical car also going 30 miles/hr. In the second option you are driving 30 mph and crash head-on into a stationary brick wall. In neither case does your car bounce off the thing it hits, and the collision time is the same in both cases. Which of these two situations would result in the greatest impact force?


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Im thinking they are the same because both collisions are totally inelastic?
 
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would you rather run into a stationary wall or run into a wall moving towards you at 30 mph?
 
well, actually take a look at impulse ;] you can rewrite it as:
(change in momentum) = (Force) * (time of action)
change in momentum is the same for both cases, time is too, so...? ;]
 
housemartin said:
well, actually take a look at impulse ;] you can rewrite it as:
(change in momentum) = (Force) * (time of action)
change in momentum is the same for both cases, time is too, so...? ;]

wouldn't your time of impact be halved by the fact that the other car is moving towards you as well?
 
it is more complicated in real life i guess, but here problem statement said: "the collision time is the same in both cases"
EDIT: besides you can use Newton's third law here: action equals reaction. So the car will extend same force on other identical car or standing wall.
 
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housemartin said:
it is more complicated in real life i guess, but here problem statement said: "the collision time is the same in both cases"

right you are, I apologize. Although that's a stupid question, usually physics teachers use the student's intuition for their benefit, not to confuse them.
 
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