Which Physics Book on Electricity and Magnetism Explains Concepts in Vectors?

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Recommendations for physics books on electricity and magnetism emphasize the need for calculus-based texts. Popular suggestions include Griffiths' "Introduction to Electrodynamics" and Purcell's "Electricity and Magnetism," with discussions highlighting their varying difficulty levels. Users note that while Purcell is more accessible, Griffiths offers a deeper understanding but comes with challenging exercises. Engineering texts like Ulaby and Cheng are also mentioned as valuable resources, particularly for those focusing on practical applications. Engaging with problems in these texts is deemed essential for mastering the concepts.
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kinkmode said:
Judging by *some* of the engineers I've seen out there in the 'real world', I'm not surprised.

There are crappy mediocre people in every field. Engineering and physics included.

Tell me about it, it's so hard to find good engineer. One guy that absolutely cannot design if his life depends on it. He decided to go back to school to pursue a PhD to teach. I feel bad for his students.

I never study a day of EE in school, I studied everything on my own. At the beginning I felt inferior. Then I started looking and talking to other engineers...My God! Where have they been, how do they manage to go through school?! I used to joke, if I were their manager, first thing I would do is to fire a programmer from UC Berkley and then a mechanical engineer from Stanford! When I worked in Seimen Ultrasound div in the 80s, there was a guy from MIT that designed the RF front end. I ended up had to redesigned the whole thing over.
 
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yungman said:
Not to hijack this thread, I want to slowly pursue advanced EM. I am still looking for a book with very heavy math derivation. I have Franklin, Jackson and the Advanced EM by Balanis. Do you have any suggestion on one best for self studying as I am too old to go to school AND it's not easy to find a school offering that...and cheap! Most books jump steps in derivation of equations. I end up spending a lot of time digging around to derive the equations on my own. Then I have to tape the notes onto the books. The books usually getting thicker after I done with it!

Also, I only finished PDE and studied Green's function. What other math I should study before diving into the advanced EM books?

thanks

balanis goes through the math steps much more than any other "advanced" book, which is why his book is so HUGE and yet doesn't cover variational principles or other useful things. It also means it is a lousy reference once you know the material since it is painful to wade through it all.

Check the book reviews in the physics and engineering books sections, and you may find some more answers without hijacking this thread anymore.
 
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jasonRF said:
balanis goes through the math steps much more than any other "advanced" book, which is why his book is so HUGE and yet doesn't cover variational principles or other useful things. It also means it is a lousy reference once you know the material since it is painful to wade through it all.

Check the book reviews in the physics and engineering books sections, and you may find some more answers without hijacking this thread anymore.

I actually think Balanis is not that good. I am studying his Antenna theory, it is THE book for antenna, but it is so lack of derivation. That's the reason I am on the Calculus and Classical Physics so much in the last two months.

I have not gone through most of his advanced EM book, but I did studied the section in polarization. It is really bad. It talked a little about poyncare sphere but failed short of even make it meaningful. In fact, I have yet to find a book that really get into polarization of EM wave...Forget about Griffiths and all the undergrad books, they have nothing. Took me a month to gather the info from multiple books like Kraus and online articles to put together to even make sense out of it. Actually, after going through it over and over, it's very easy!

That's the problem with the advanced EM, you can't even find articles and you can't trust the articles. All the mistakes, typos and everything. It's a nightmare. The Antenna theory by Balanis is not that good, but you have no other choice. It's not like undergrad books that you have tons to pick with. I am stalled right now for over a month on a few statements Balanis made on just a simple loop antenna that require Helmholtz, Gauge theorem and Green Function. I have been patiently review all these in order to come back to only Chapter 5!

Oh! I sure know what the OP is complaining about, boy do I know it! It is frustrated to no end studying these advanced stuff. You can't get answer! You don't even know how many times I was about to throw in the towel and call it a quit! It's not as if my life depends on it. I am retired and living very comfortably. My wife called me S&M!

Sorry about the rant, it's been pent up for so long, It's like crying so loud and nobody responded. Even in here, I have to be so careful in chopping up to smaller pieces to ask a question or else I never even get a response...and Yes, I tried so many times with no response. And I have 3 other forums to ask and absolute no luck most of the time. Sorry for the ranting, I just cannot stop. And I have absolutely sympathy with the OP.

BTW, I had posted multiple articles of Balanis, I did not agree, neither were all the people here that read it. You really have to be careful with the post grad books. Did I catch mistakes on the Phase Lock Loop books on both Roland Best and William F Egan. Both actually responded to my complain. One offer to sent me a manuscript and the other gave me a website with the correction. You can't even trust what you read!

Unless you have three book giving you the EXACT equation, VERIFY. They are only human and they can be wrong.
 
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yungman said:
Not to hijack this thread, I want to slowly pursue advanced EM. I am still looking for a book with very heavy math derivation. I have Franklin, Jackson and the Advanced EM by Balanis. Do you have any suggestion on one best for self studying as I am too old to go to school AND it's not easy to find a school offering that...and cheap! Most books jump steps in derivation of equations. I end up spending a lot of time digging around to derive the equations on my own. Then I have to tape the notes onto the books. The books usually getting thicker after I done with it!

Also, I only finished PDE and studied Green's function. What other math I should study before diving into the advanced EM books?

thanks

Hi, I don't know if you have seen this book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0486656780/?tag=pfamazon01-20. According to the author, the approach is "theoretical in the sense that the subject matter is developed step by step from the Maxwell field equations".
 
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verty said:
Hi, I don't know if you have seen this book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0486656780/?tag=pfamazon01-20. According to the author, the approach is "theoretical in the sense that the subject matter is developed step by step from the Maxwell field equations".

I just bought it on Amazon. Got a used one For $2.50 +$3.99 shipping. Good deal. I like to collect books, this book has the multi pole expansion that I want to study more.

Thanks
 
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Miike012 said:

This is an amazing book to bridge the gap between theory and practice. It is a treasure trove of solved EM problems that really helps in understanding the implications of many theoretical concepts. I am not sure how it will fare as the sole EM book for a beginner, but this book is a must have, in my opinion.
I also heard there's a newer edition on the way, but I am not sure when it is due.

As for theory, what about a classic?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0486439240/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Panofsky and Phillips, Classical Electricity and Magnetism, 2nd edition.
Inexpensive but... dense.
A little old fashioned in formalism but a nice reference to have.
 
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