Which quantum mechanics textbooks?

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The discussion revolves around the suitability of various quantum mechanics textbooks for self-study, specifically comparing Griffiths, Shankar, and Sakurai. Participants explore the appropriateness of these texts for beginners versus more advanced learners, as well as the potential sequence in which to study them.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Griffiths is a suitable starting point for beginners, while others argue that Shankar may not be ideal as a first book on quantum mechanics.
  • A participant mentions that Shankar's style is verbose and prefers Griffiths for initial study.
  • Another participant advocates for starting with Eisberg and Resnick, citing their historical context and motivation for quantum mechanics, which they feel is lacking in Griffiths, Shankar, and Sakurai.
  • Concerns are raised about Griffiths not providing sufficient motivation for the Schrödinger equation, with suggestions for alternative approaches to understanding its significance.
  • Some participants recommend reading Shankar after Griffiths for its depth and mathematical rigor, while others express reservations about its treatment of certain advanced topics.
  • A later reply emphasizes the value of Sakurai for filling in gaps left by the other texts and presents a different perspective on the derivation of the Schrödinger equation.
  • One participant indicates they are already familiar with the motivation for quantum mechanics and plans to start with Griffiths, considering Shankar and Sakurai later based on their preferences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best sequence of textbooks or the suitability of Shankar as a first text. Multiple competing views on the appropriateness of each book for different levels of study remain evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the motivational aspects of the textbooks and their pedagogical approaches, highlighting the subjective nature of learning preferences in quantum mechanics.

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I want to begin self-studying some quantum mechanics, and was wondering whether Griffiths or Shankar would be more suitable. I know Griffiths is an introductory book, but I'm not sure where Shankar fits--some say it's a good place to learn QM for the first time, others say it's suitable for graduate students.

On a related note, is Griffiths sufficient preparation for Sakurai? Is reading both Shankar and Sakurai overkill?

To summarize: Which of these sequences should I take?
1) Griffiths, Sakurai
2) Shankar, Sakurai
3) Griffiths, Shankar
4) Griffiths, Shankar, Sakurai

Thanks,
Aleksandar
 
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I've used Shankar at some point in time, his style is nice, but frankly, I don't like it.
I would not advise using it as a first book on QM.

So if you're asking whether to use Shankar or Griffiths, I would suggest going for Griffiths, then move on to whatever other book you like.

One of my favorite books (covers a wide range of topics, more like beginner/intermediate level):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0199560277/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Konishi & Paffuti book should provide sufficient background material for Sakurai's modern QM.
 
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My main complaint with Shankar is that he is prolix. (You know I've just been waiting to use that word.)
 
To me, the place to start would be the first four chapters of Eisberg and Resnick. I don't think Griffiths, Shankar, and Sakurai really motivate QM properly. E&R give a lot of historical background, experiments that contradicted classical models, etc. I feel that one needs to convince oneself that classical physics had to be modified, to reconcile the theory with these experiments.
If you don't like E&R, Ch. 1-2 of Messiah work well for the same purpose.

Griffiths has no motivation at all, just drops the Schrödinger equation on page 1. This is incredibly unsatisfying, and honestly, readers should feel insulted. Even though the SE can't be "derived," there are arguments by analogy, physical reasons that it is what it is. (For an extreme example, the most convincing argument to me is by analogy to the wave optics -> geometric optics limit, using the Hamilton-Jacobi equation.) Nevertheless, once a reader is convinced about the Schrödinger equation, the rest of the book reads nicely, although it feels like "quantum lite" most of the time.

After Griffiths (or concurrently), go with Shankar. It really goes in depth, and develops your mathematical skills. Chapter 1 is the best treatment of linear algebra for QM that I've seen. I'm not a fan of how the path integral, berry phase, landau levels, etc. are thrown in as an afterthought in chapter 21, but the rest of the book was fun.

Finally, read Sakurai. It fills in a lot of holes that the other books leave, and approaches the rest from an alternative, more streamlined point of view. I particularly like how Schrödinger's equation is arrived at from the postulate of unitary time evolution. (Bonus: there's a new edition with an extra chapter on relativistic QM. The new edition leaves out Young tableaux, so make sure to learn that from an alternative source. The previous (red) edition of Sakurai has a treatment, but I really like Greiner QM: Symmetries.)
 
Thanks for the advice everyone!
I'm already familiar with the motivation for QM, so it seems Griffiths is the right place to start. I'll take a look at Shankar later and see if like it; if not, I'll just go straight to Sakurai.
 

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