Whose light do you find more natural, Florescent or Incandescent?

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The discussion revolves around the perceived naturalness of different types of artificial lighting, specifically fluorescent and incandescent lights. Participants explore the color rendering properties of these lights, their subjective experiences, and comparisons to natural sunlight.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the Color Rendering Index (CRI) suggests incandescent lights have a CRI of 100, while fluorescent lights range from 60 to 70, yet personal perceptions of color rendering vary.
  • One participant expresses a preference for fluorescent light, describing it as whiter and more natural compared to the yellowish hue of incandescent light.
  • Another participant mentions a dislike for the glare of sunlight and associates CFL light with a hospital-like atmosphere, while preferring diffused natural sunlight.
  • A participant points out that fluorescent light has a strong green component due to mercury gas, suggesting that neither light type is "natural" alone, but a combination may be satisfactory.
  • Some participants discuss their preferences for color temperatures, with one favoring cool CFLs and another noting the warm white of incandescent lights resembles warm white CFLs.
  • There is a question raised about the basis for the CRI rating of incandescent lights.
  • One participant asserts that natural light is yellowish, associating it with romantic settings like candlelight, while another counters that natural light appears white to them.
  • A later reply elaborates on the perception of sunlight, discussing its classification and how atmospheric effects can alter its appearance from yellow to white.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the naturalness of different light sources, with no clear consensus on which type of light is more natural. Some agree on certain characteristics of light, while others present conflicting views on the color and quality of natural light.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various aspects of light perception, including color temperature and atmospheric effects, but do not resolve the complexities surrounding the definitions of "natural" light.

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Color Rendering Index is said to measure the extend to which lights behave as natural light .It is said that Incandescent have CRI of 100 and Florescent have around 60-70. However, I find the lights from Incandescent yellow-reddish and I find that objects are rendered yellowish on its light. I instead find Florescent's light white and more natural.

How do you feel?

(Edit: After thinking for some time, I thought this was more appropriate for this GD than EE)
 
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I honestly can't tell a difference.
 
Sunlight makes everything feel too "glarey". The light from CFL's reminds me of a hospital. Incandescent light is too yellow. I really like diffused natural sunlight. I have a skylight in my office with an etched white diffuser that is simply fantastic to read/work in.
 
Fluorescent light is very heavy on the green, thanks to the still ubiquitous Hg gas in the tubes. That 569 nm green line is good enough to calibrate your spectroscopes.

Neither are "natural" by themselves, but together the red-orange of incandescence and blue-green of fluorescence make a satisfactory substitute. I use about a 4:1 ratio of CFL to incandescent around the house.

If I had to choose one or the other as being "more natural" I'd have to go with a high-wattage halogen lamp, or perhaps a 5000 K incandescent stage light.
 
I like my CFLs and fluorescents to be cool (3300-3500K) but not daylight (5000 to 6500K). Nevertheless, I have a few of the warm white (2700K) in rooms with more wood panelling / dark colours. It's been a while since I've had incandescents, but they probably more closely resemble the warm white CFLs (<3000 K).

The candelabra-style CFLs that I have in a few places have a mix of energy-efficient halogens and CFLs, so that there's a good initial light (it's been a while, but I hadn't been able to find candelabra-style CFLs that turned on with near-full brightness, despite them only being 40-60 W equivalents).

Given the above, that's probably why I prefer the fluorescents.
 
Natural light is yellowish. That's why candles are romantic. White lights are creepy.

I much prefer sunshine.
 
qspeechc said:
Natural light is yellowish. That's why candles are romantic. White lights are creepy.

I much prefer sunshine.

You think so? Natural light looks pretty darn white to me.
 
Jack21222 said:
You think so? Natural light looks pretty darn white to me.

By natural light I can only guess that means sunlight. Maybe moonlight.
From wikipedia:
The Sun's stellar classification, based on spectral class, is G2V, and is informally designated as a yellow dwarf, because its visible radiation is most intense in the yellow-green portion of the spectrum and although its color is white, from the surface of the Earth it may appear yellow because of atmospheric scattering of blue light.

From http://www.universetoday.com/42268/why-is-the-sun-yellow/":
So why is the Sun yellow?

Actually, the Sun isn’t yellow. Seen from space, the Sun looks almost pure white. The Earth’s atmosphere blocks some of the spectrum of light coming from the Sun so that it appears yellow from here on the surface of the Earth.

As you might know, the light from the Sun isn’t anyone color. It’s actually a collection of light from almost the entire electromagnetic spectrum. The gives off light in the radio spectrum, infrared, through the visible spectrum and even into ultraviolet and X-rays.

When we see the Sun, we’re seeing an average color of all the photons hitting our eyes. Some of those photons are red, others are yellow, some are green and others are blue. But when you average the color of them all, that’s when we get the white color of sunlight (seen from space). Now, when those photons pass through the atmosphere, some of them are absorbed or scattered away, so we see the more yellow color.

And here's a longer more scientific website:
http://www.science20.com/solar_fun_of_the_heliochromologist/the_color_of_the_sun_part_ii
 
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