Why are craters on the Moon nearly all circular?

In summary, the conversation discusses the prevalence of circular impact craters on the Moon despite the likelihood of oblique impacts from various directions. The speakers suggest that the lack of asymmetrical craters could be due to gravity and probability, as well as the shockwave generated by the impact rather than the impactor itself. They also mention that some craters may appear circular due to the effects of the shockwave. The conversation also includes a link to pictures of oblique impact craters on the Moon and Mars.
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We all see pictures of the Moon, on an almost daily basis and the real thing fairly often. The craters we see are all more or less circular. There must have been a lot of very oblique impacts from all directions so why don't we see a significant number of asymmetrical impact craters? I would have expected a meteorite which arrives on a glancing trajectory would produce a 'trench' shaped groove and not an almost perfect circular crater.
Is there (there must be) a good answer to this question? I was looking at my Moon Map App with my son and we couldn't produce a good reason.
I was wondering about a refraction-type explanation where the path gets bent 'towards the normal' but you can't avoid momentum conservation.
 
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At those high speeds, think of it more like an explosion than an impact.
 
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Some of this may have to do with probability and gravity. Gravity will bend the trajectories toward vertical. Probability in that most of the debris started in relatively stable, not to elliptical orbits in the same direction as our system. So most impacts due to "sweeping" would start with small velocity vectors an most of the impact velocity would be due to freefall/escape velocity.
 
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Probably every collision in the moon has its formact untouched because there is no dynamic in its surface, there is no wind or water flowing.
 
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tony873004 said:
At those high speeds, think of it more like an explosion than an impact.

incorrect, the impacts are obvious and a blast effect pretty much always results for any sizeable impact
only the smaller impacts are unlikely to result is an explosion/blast

Leonardo Machado said:
Probably every collision in the moon has its formact untouched because there is no dynamic in its surface, there is no wind or water flowing.

cant even to begin to make sense of that

russ_watters said:
A google for "oblique angle impact crater" yields this:
http://the-moon.wikispaces.com/Oblique+Impact+Craters

nice description, Russ, spot on :)Dave
 
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russ_watters said:
Gravity will bend the trajectories toward vertical.
In the absence of an atmosphere, the trajectory will be a conic section (hyperbola, I guess) and that can give a grazing angle.

Those pictures of Oblique impacts look far more circular than I would have expected, in fact, I reckon you'd have to be pretty well trained to spot most of them on a photo, if it wasn't pointed out to you. But the explanation makes sort of sense - especially the comment about the rays being not symmetrical. So it's as if the KE is absorbed during penetration and then the energy of the explosion causes the crater. I suppose that the impacting object size is only a small fraction of the crater diameter so any offset would be swamped compared with the visible 'circular' wall. Perhaps if you excavated the centre of one of those craters, you'd see some evidence of Metamorphism of the rock underground. One day, someone will certainly take a look.
 
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The crater is not made by the impacting object itself, but rather the shockwave generated by the impact. What we think of as the "explosion" is the kinetic energy of the incoming impactor being converted in thermal energy that vaporises the impactor and some of the surface at the impact point, electromagnetic energy (light) that is emitted in the impact, and mechanical energy that goes into the surface as a shockwave. To all intents and purposes this shockwave spreads radially in all directions from the impact point, excavating the crater equally in all directions.

In rare very shallow impacts the shockwave origin will be more like a linecharge than a single impact point, so elliptical craters do exist on the Moon. The largest and best example to be seen in a small telescope is Schiller crater in the Southern hemisphere.
 
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p=mv, but E=mv^2/2

As velocity of an impactor increases, the effects of deposited energy start to dominate over effects of deposited momentum. At about 3km/s, energy of impact starts to vaporize the impactor, making its effects similar to explosion with HE. And you probably know that artillery shell holes are circular even though shells generally do not hit the ground at 90 degrees.
 
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nikkkom said:
Mars has a beautiful example of large very shallow-angle crater

https://www.google.com/mars/#lat=13.410994&lon=-187.976074&zoom=6
That's stunning and better than any I've seen on those Moon picture links. Could it be the atmosphere or the larger diameter of Mars that allowed that to happen?
nikkkom said:
As velocity of an impactor increases, the effects of deposited energy start to dominate over effects of deposited momentum.
Great. Well put.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
That's stunning and better than any I've seen on those Moon picture links. Could it be the atmosphere or the larger diameter of Mars that allowed that to happen?

You just haven't look in the right places. Here is an elevation map of the Shiller Crater mentioned above.

Edit: Fixed bad link from google maps
 
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From what's been written here I would say that Schiller must have been caused by a very oblique impact. Hence it would be a very minority event.
 
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Asteroidnerd said:
The crater is not made by the impacting object itself, but rather the shockwave generated by the impact. What we think of as the "explosion" is the kinetic energy of the incoming impactor being converted in thermal energy that vaporises the impactor and some of the surface at the impact point, electromagnetic energy (light) that is emitted in the impact, and mechanical energy that goes into the surface as a shockwave. To all intents and purposes this shockwave spreads radially in all directions from the impact point, excavating the crater equally in all directions.

can you please provide some reliable references for those comments
 
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davenn said:
incorrect, the impacts are obvious and a blast effect pretty much always results for any sizeable impact
only the smaller impacts are unlikely to result is an explosion/blast
The link you repeated says "Ernst Opik in Estonia and Algernon Gifford in New Zealand both realized that at the very high energies of cosmic impacts, craters are produced by explosions, not gouging." That's pretty much what tony873004 said, so characterizing a statement as "incorrect" and then repeating a link that also makes that statement is somewhat bizarre. Perhaps you did not realize that tony873004 was clearly associating what the Wiki calls "gouging" with his word "impact," which is a somewhat nonstandard semantics but I think it was clear enough. It would seem the key distinction is the one made by both nikkkom and Asteroidnerd, where "gouging" is a result of the vector momentum, but "explosion" is the result of the scalar energy. A canonical number often seen is that the typical speeds of objects that produce craters is such that the crater radius is about 10 times larger than the object radius, which gives a good sense of how the direction of the incident momentum is usually lost in the explosive effects of all that energy.
 
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It seems that for most craters, the Momentum is transferred to the Moon as a whole, more than to the material on the surface. So not a lot of obvious displacement in a particular direction. But all the Energy gets dissipated locally and the effect spreads out in all directions. The main local bits that are affected by the Momentum of the projectile would be the rays, formed by surface dust that's kicked up.
 
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The only definitive way to resolve this issue is to stand on the moon and wait for something to hit right next to you. Be sure and post your observations after impact.
 

Related to Why are craters on the Moon nearly all circular?

1. Why are craters on the Moon mostly circular?

The craters on the Moon are mostly circular because of the way they are formed. When a meteorite or asteroid impacts the Moon's surface, the force of the impact causes the material to be ejected in all directions, creating a circular shape.

2. Are there any non-circular craters on the Moon?

Yes, there are some non-circular craters on the Moon, but they are rare. This is because the circular shape is the most stable and efficient form for a crater to take, due to the forces involved in the impact.

3. What other factors contribute to the circular shape of craters on the Moon?

In addition to the force of the impact, the lack of atmosphere on the Moon also plays a role in the circular shape of craters. On Earth, the atmosphere can cause the material ejected from an impact to be blown in different directions, resulting in non-circular craters.

4. Can the size of a crater affect its shape?

Yes, the size of a crater can affect its shape. Larger craters tend to have a more circular shape, while smaller craters may have a more irregular shape. This is because larger impacts have a greater force and can create a more symmetrical shape.

5. Do all craters on the Moon have the same depth?

No, not all craters on the Moon have the same depth. The depth of a crater depends on factors such as the size and velocity of the impacting object, as well as the composition and structure of the Moon's surface. Some craters may be shallow while others can be several kilometers deep.

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