Why boiling occurs at fix temperature?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the phenomenon of boiling and why the temperature of water remains constant during this phase transition, particularly in an open vessel. Participants explore this concept from a thermodynamic perspective and consider the nature of phase transitions in general.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for an explanation of why boiling is isothermal, seeking a thermodynamic perspective.
  • Another participant notes that boiling in an open vessel occurs at constant pressure, which is a thermodynamic constraint for maintaining constant temperature in a single component system.
  • Some participants argue that the boiling temperature must remain fixed, questioning what could change in the remaining water that would alter the boiling temperature after some has evaporated.
  • There is a discussion about why phase transitions are discrete and why a liquid absorbs heat to convert to a gas at a constant temperature, rather than gradually changing properties as temperature increases.
  • One participant references a textbook definition of isothermal processes and reiterates the question of why temperature remains constant during boiling.
  • Responses indicate a variety of perspectives on the nature of liquids and gases, including the role of chemical bonds in defining different states of matter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that boiling occurs at a fixed temperature under certain conditions, but there are multiple competing views regarding the underlying reasons for this phenomenon and the nature of phase transitions. The discussion remains unresolved with respect to some of the deeper questions raised.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on atmospheric pressure and the specific conditions under which boiling occurs. There are also unresolved questions regarding the nature of phase transitions and the definitions of states of matter.

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Can anyone explain to me why does temperature of water remains constant while boiling in an open vessel or in general sense why phase transition is isothermal in nature?please give me answers from thermodynamic point of view also.
 
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Boiling in an open vessel is ordinarily at constant pressure. This is the thermodynamic constraint for constant temperature boiling of a single component system.
 
How could it be anything but fixed? Suppose you boil away half of the water in a pot. What is different about the remaining water from what you started with, that would cause the boiling temperature to be different?
 
russ_watters said:
How could it be anything but fixed?

I suppose one could ask why phase transition is a discrete transition. The OP asked why phase transition is isothermal. I could re-state that question to ask why does a liquid absorb heat and convert to a gas at the same temperature? Why does the liquid not simply absorb more and more heat, and become less and less dense, and gradually change properties from those of a liquid to those of a gas as it's temperature rises?
 
mrspeedybob said:
I suppose one could ask why phase transition is a discrete transition. The OP asked why phase transition is isothermal. I could re-state that question to ask why does a liquid absorb heat and convert to a gas at the same temperature? Why does the liquid not simply absorb more and more heat, and become less and less dense, and gradually change properties from those of a liquid to those of a gas as it's temperature rises?
So, that question boils down to what is a liquid/what is a gas/why are they different states of matter?

They are different because in a liquid the molecules are loosely chemically bonded together and in a gas, they are not. Chemical bonds carry a specific amount of energy and given the same conditions always require the same energy to break.
 
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mrspeedybob said:
I suppose one could ask why phase transition is a discrete transition. The OP asked why phase transition is isothermal. I could re-state that question to ask why does a liquid absorb heat and convert to a gas at the same temperature? Why does the liquid not simply absorb more and more heat, and become less and less dense, and gradually change properties from those of a liquid to those of a gas as it's temperature rises?
Perhaps i could not phrase my question well so i am writing the exact statement of a textbook which is like this
An equilibrium process in the course of which the system's temperature remains constant is known as an isothermal (constant-temperature) process. An example of an isothermal process is the boiling of pure water in an open vessel: until all the water boils out of the vessel, its temperature remains practically constant (provided atmospheric pressure does not change in the process of boiling).now my question is why in this case temperature remains constant.
 
What have you learned from the responses you have gotten so far?
 
Ok guys.i got the point.thank you all of you for helping me.
 

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