Why can maximum shear stress in a web be replaced by the average shear stress?

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The discussion centers on the use of average web shear stress (V/dt) versus maximum shear stress (VQ/It) in steel beam design. A user calculated both stresses for a wide flange beam and found the average shear stress to be greater than the maximum, leading to confusion. Upon recalculating, they found errors in their initial Q value, which clarified that the maximum shear stress can be approximated by the average shear stress when using the web area. The calculations ultimately showed that the two values were close enough to validate the use of the average shear stress approximation. The conclusion affirms confidence in using the average shear stress for design purposes.
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I've been reading my strength of materials text about design of steel beams. I understand everything up to the point where the text tells me to use the average web shear stress (V/dt) instead of max shear stress (VQ/It) to determine if a given beam is within the allowable shear stress. I calculated both to determine how close they are and found the average greater than the max! I've checked several times and don't see an error. What am I missing?
 
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mtnmama said:
I've been reading my strength of materials text about design of steel beams. I understand everything up to the point where the text tells me to use the average web shear stress (V/dt) instead of max shear stress (VQ/It) to determine if a given beam is within the allowable shear stress. I calculated both to determine how close they are and found the average greater than the max! I've checked several times and don't see an error. What am I missing?
Are you using a wide flange (I) beam? Max shear stress at the neutral axis (VQ/It) is approximately equal to the average shear stress when using the web area only (V/Aw).
 
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Yes, it is a wide flange. When I calculate an average and a max stress on the flange of a 8 ft section of W18 x 50 with a uniform load of 1.85 klb/in I get an average of 16.22 klb/sq in. The max I get is 6.56 klb/sq in. Is that considered close, or have I made an error somewhere?
 
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I found some errors in Q. What I get now is:

V = wL/2 = [1.85 klb/in * 8 ft *12 in/ft]/2 = 88.80 kips
I = 400 in^4 (table)
Q = sum of first moments of upper half of beam, ie the flange and half the web
= Q of flange + Q of 1/2 web
= A of flange x y to centroid + A of 1/2 web x y to centroid
= (7.495 in * .57) * 8.71 + (8.425*.355*4.2125)
= 37.21 + 12.60
= 49.81 in^3

Max stress = VQ/(It) = 88.80 * 49.81 / (800 * .355) = 15.57 ksi

Avg stress = V/A of web = 88.89/(.355 * 15.42) = 16.22 ksi

These two values are close enough to verify that the max stress can be approximated by avg stress. If you don't see any errors in my equations, I will continue to use the approximation with confidence.

Thank you.
 
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