Why Do Two Falling Objects Have the Same Acceleration in This Physics Problem?

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In this physics problem, two objects—a block and a cylinder—are connected by a massless string over a pulley, leading to the conclusion that they share the same downward acceleration. The analysis begins with the application of Newton's second law (F=ma) and torque equations, revealing that both the block and the cylinder experience the same forces, resulting in identical accelerations. The initial calculations suggest an acceleration of (2/3)g, but an alternative approach using conservation of energy indicates an acceleration of (1/2)g, raising questions about the consistency of the findings. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes that the accelerations of both objects depend solely on the forces acting on them, confirming they must accelerate equally. This problem illustrates the interconnected dynamics of rotational and linear motion in a pulley system.
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Homework Statement



One pulley, on one side we have a block with mass m.
On the other side we have a cylinder with mass m.
Cylinder (radius R) has unlimited string (massless, negligible thickness, no slippage)

So you can imagine two blocks falling as more string unravels from the cylinder.

I am told that these two objects have the same acceleration downwards. Why?

Homework Equations



F=ma
ma=mg-T

torque? T*R=I*\alpha

The Attempt at a Solution



The problem made it sound like this was a quick, obvious argument.
I proceeded to a longer argument, finding that the accelerations of both masses were (2/3)g downward:

starting with the cylinder-
TR=I*\alpha
T*R2 = (1/2)M*R2 * a
Finding T= (1/2)ma, then plugging T back into the standard F=ma equations.
Then I find the acceleration of the block to be (2/3)g as well.

Is this even right? If it is, was there a way to show that the objects' accelerations were the same without finding the actual accelerations?

The reason I don't think this is right is because I did the problem using conservation of energy using the assumption that the objects fell down at the same acceleration.
With conservation of energy I got acceleration=(1/2)g (conserving KE, PE, angular KE)
 
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I think you don't need to use torque.
By F= m * a(center of mass) you get that their accel will only depend on forces applied to them. In both cases block and cylinder you have F = T - mg.
Then => m * aBlock = m * aCylinder => aBlock = aCylinder
 
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