Why Does Cramster Simplify Velocity Components Incorrectly in Physics Problems?

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving elastic collisions and the simplification of velocity components in a solution from Cramster. The original poster questions Cramster's reduction of the expression 9v²cos²(x) + 9v²cos²(x) to 9v², arguing that it neglects the distinction between x and y velocity components. They assert that their own calculations yield 9v²xcos²(x) + 9v²ycos²(x), indicating that the components should not be combined due to their potential differences. Despite acknowledging that Cramster's final answer is correct, the poster emphasizes the importance of maintaining separate components in the calculations. The discussion highlights the need for careful consideration of vector components in physics problems.
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Homework Statement



This problem is from Modern Physics by Kenneth Krane 2nd ED

The problem is:

An atom of mass m moving in the x direction with speed v collides elastically with an atom of mass 3m at rest. After the collision the first atom moves in the y direction. Find the direction of motion of the second atom and the speeds of both atoms in terms of v after the collision.

Now my question is not how to solve this problem, it is to try and understand a math step involved in this problem from a solution off of cramster.

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On cramster they reduce this:

9v^{2}_{}cos^{2}(x)+9v^{2}_{}cos^{2}(x)

to this:

9v^{2}

But when I did the problem and got down to their step I have this:

9v^{2}_{x}cos^{2}(x)+9v^{2}_{y}cos^{2}(x)

Those velocities are different components an x and a y, which they neglected to distinguish on cramster.

I know that:

3cos^{2}(x) + 3sin^{2}(x) = 3

But I don't see how they came to their conclusion because the x and y components could be different.

Thanks.
 
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If your equation is correct, you're right that it can't be reduced. Show us how you got your equation.
 
There is about 3 pages of work to get to that equation but I don't think I have made a mistake. So its pretty hard to post it. Also if I go by their solution they actually get the correct answer in the end but at the same time I'm very sure that they are indeed two different components. Thanks though.
 
Well, I'll just say your equation looks wrong. You almost always get vx or v cos θ, not the combination vxcos θ. Similarly, for the y-component.
 
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