Why does electric flux have 'cos θ' in its formula?

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The discussion revolves around the inclusion of 'cos θ' in the formula for electric flux, exploring the reasons behind the need for the perpendicular component of the electric field relative to a surface. The conversation includes conceptual clarifications and analogies to illustrate the principles involved.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the cosine factor arises because the flux is determined by the component of the electric field that is perpendicular to the surface.
  • Others argue that to maximize the flux, the surface should be oriented such that its normal is parallel to the electric field, leading to an angle θ of 0 and cosθ equal to 1.
  • A participant questions why the perpendicular component is necessary, proposing that other angles could also be considered.
  • Another participant explains that using cos θ is essential to obtain the component of the field in the direction of the surface normal, referencing the general principle of vector components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the necessity of the perpendicular component, with some agreeing on the role of cos θ while others question the exclusivity of this approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader implications of using different angles.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions about the nature of electric flux or the conditions under which the cosine component is applied.

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Why does electric flux have 'cos θ' in its formula??
 
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AnandM said:
Why does electric flux have 'cos θ' in its formula??
To find the flux through a surface you need the component of the field perpendicular to the surface. Taking that component involves the cosine of the angle between the field and the normal to the surface.

Read about it here: Electric Flux
 
Why does it have to ve perpendicular? Why not at any other angle?
 
AnandM said:
Why does it have to ve perpendicular? Why not at any other angle?
If you want to maximize the flux through a surface, you want to orient the surface so that its normal is parallel to the field.

As an analogy, think of rain falling straight down (representing the field). You have a bucket that you want to fill quickly. How would you orient the open surface of the bucket to maximize the amount of rain collected? Obviously, you'd arrange the bucket upright so that the "flux" is maximum. That would have the normal to the surface (which is used to describe the orientation of the surface) parallel to the falling rain. That makes the angle θ = 0, making cosθ = 1. If you turned the bucket sideways so that θ = 90°, cosθ = 0 and the flux goes to zero. (The bucket won't fill up at all.)
 
So are we using cos θ because the sin θ component gives 0 flux?
 
AnandM said:
So are we using cos θ because the sin θ component gives 0 flux?
You use cos θ because you want the component of the field in the direction of the surface normal. Whenever you need a component of a vector in a certain direction, you multiply the magnitude of the vector by the cosine of the angle it makes with that direction.

For example, to find the x-component of a velocity vector (##\vec {V}##), you use ##V\cos\theta##, where ##\theta## is the angle the vector makes with the x-axis.
 
Okay thanks
 

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