Why does PPG (photoplethysmography) Use Infrared and Green Both Light

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The discussion revolves around the use of both green and infrared (IR) light in photoplethysmography (PPG) devices, specifically in the context of wearable technology like FitBit. Participants explore the reasoning behind employing multiple wavelengths for improved accuracy and the implications for sensor design.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why FitBit uses both green and IR LEDs when the receiving sensor is only for IR, suggesting a potential redundancy.
  • Another participant proposes that using both green and IR light improves accuracy, particularly at low temperatures, referencing a study to support this claim.
  • A participant shares their experience in searching for academic papers on the topic, detailing their process and the challenges faced in finding relevant information about the different wavelengths used in PPG.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of using both green and IR light in PPG devices, and the discussion remains open with differing viewpoints on the topic.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the effectiveness of different wavelengths and the specific conditions under which the accuracy improvements occur. The exact mechanisms behind the use of multiple light sources in PPG are not fully explored.

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Hi Everyone,
I'm doing research in Implanted Devices in Human Body (Sensors, Hearing Aid, Pacemaker) for my college course.

I've started with FitBit that uses the PPG Principle. But I'm struggling to understand why the FitBit uses both Green and IR LED whereas the sensor at the receiving end is only for IR.

All the theory I read suggested that there is a Green (or Red) LED and an IR Sensor. So if there is an IR Sensor, why not use only an IR LED instead of Green (or Red) plus IR LED.

Any insight would be grateful...
 
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Looks like using both improves accuracy, especially at low temperatures...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19163152

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Thanks for the quick n great reply n link. Very helpful.
Not sure hoemw to ask but can you please tell me what did you type in Google to get that paper?
 
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Thanks for the quick n great reply n link. Very helpful.
Not sure hoemw to ask but can you please tell me what did you type in Google to get that paper?
Happy to. I didn't get directly to it on my first try. First Google search was to find out what "PPG" stood for in your title (I then added the parenthetical bit to help others know what it was). I clicked into a few articles about PPG to see if they talked about the different wavelengths of light, but none seemed to. There were a couple good papers comparing EKG and PPG for accuracy and information content, but I couldn't find anything on the two light modalities.

So I got frustrated and tried a more directed search, in case I got lucky with some hits. I searched: PPG IR versus Green Light, and the link above was the 1st hit on the hit list. I prefer to use references to the NIH website when I can, and clicking into the abstract seemed to be a pretty good match for what you were looking for. Sometimes we get lucky! :smile:

https://www.google.com/search?q=PPG+IR+versus+Green+Light&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
 
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Thanks again.
 
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