Chemistry Why does this equation not give me the ionization energy of lithium?

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The discussion centers on the challenges of calculating the first ionization energy of lithium using the Bohr model, which is primarily effective for hydrogen-like atoms. The user initially attempted to apply the equation for hydrogen but received an incorrect value for lithium's ionization energy. Participants clarify that the equation is only applicable to hydrogen-like ions, such as Li2+, and not to multi-electron atoms like lithium. They suggest that accurate calculations for ionization energy require advanced methods, such as computer simulations, rather than simple equations. Ultimately, measuring ionization energy and analyzing quantum defects is recommended for understanding periodic trends in multi-electron systems.
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i want to find the first ionization energy for lithium using Bohr formula but something seems wrong !
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Bohr energy equation
i am trying to calculate the first ionization energy for lithium with this equation but it seems to work only with hydrogen ?
i put nf = infinity and ni =2 ,and z = 3 for lithium and it gives about 30 ev not 5.39172 ev which is the value for lithium :

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i will appreciate any help in this
 
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There are some limitations to the Bohr model, do you know them?
 
Borek said:
There are some limitations to the Bohr model, do you know them?
i know that it failed to describe the experimental results for multi electron atoms :smile: ,
so what equation is being used for finding the ionization energy ?
because every where i look online it seems that people uses that equation ?!
 
Look up "Rydberg atom". Your equation is for a hydrogen-like ion, with 1 electron, i.e. Li2+.
 
mjc123 said:
Look up "Rydberg atom". Your equation is for a hydrogen-like ion, with 1 electron, i.e. Li2+.
thanks i got it now , so i am assuming that there is no equation that could calculate the first ionization energy of a specific element except hydrogen ?!
or even approximately at least ?
 
Not really, without computer number-crunching. Practically, I think it would work the other way round - measure the ionisation energy, calculate the quantum defect, compare periodic trends and see what that tells you about the orbitals.
 
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