Why is rate of dissolution constant?

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The discussion revolves around the rate of dissolution of a solid into a solution, specifically questioning why the rate appears constant despite changes in surface area as the solid dissolves. Participants explore the implications of rate laws, equilibrium, and the factors influencing dissolution rates.

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  • One participant notes that the rate law predicts a constant rate of dissolution based on the concentration of the solid, but questions this due to the decreasing surface area as the solid dissolves.
  • Another participant suggests several possibilities, including the existence of more sophisticated expressions for the rate of dissolution that account for surface area, the use of a normalized expression that already incorporates surface area, or the scenario where the solid dissolves slowly enough that surface area changes are negligible.
  • A participant reflects on their understanding of rate laws, indicating that their initial formulation may not accurately represent the dissolution process, especially in the context of solubility product constants.
  • One participant asserts that dissolution before saturation is not an equilibrium process, implying that the solubility product does not apply, and that once saturation occurs, the surface area of the solid does not affect the rates of dissolution and precipitation.

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Participants express differing views on the application of rate laws and the role of surface area in dissolution rates. There is no consensus on the correct interpretation of the dissolution process or the relevance of equilibrium concepts.

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Some participants mention the lack of clarity in textbooks regarding the relationship between equilibrium constants and dissolution rates, indicating potential limitations in the existing literature.

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A(s) <---> B(aq)
For the dissociation of A into ions, the rate law predicts a constant rate:
rate = k [solid], where the concentration of the solid is constant.
But this doesn't make sense because as the solid is becoming smaller, surface area is decreasing. Less surface area means less molecules breaking off at any interval of time (lower rate). What gives?
 
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Hmmm. Could be a few possibilities, right off the top of my head -

1.) There are more sophisticated expressions for the rate of dissolution that take surface area into account - where did you find this one?;

2.) one could be working with some sort of normalized expression for the rate of dissolution which already has taken surface area into account; or

3.) one is dealing with a solid that dissolves very slowly, so the change in surface area is negligible under the time scales involved of the measurements.
 
Mike H said:
Hmmm. Could be a few possibilities, right off the top of my head -

1.) There are more sophisticated expressions for the rate of dissolution that take surface area into account - where did you find this one?;

2.) one could be working with some sort of normalized expression for the rate of dissolution which already has taken surface area into account; or

3.) one is dealing with a solid that dissolves very slowly, so the change in surface area is negligible under the time scales involved of the measurements.

The rate law in question is not something I got from anywhere. I just used my previous knowledge of formulating rate laws and applied it in this situation. From consulting many textbooks, they introduce equilibrium constant and it's relation to the rate law for gases, but solubility product constant is randomly presented without it's relation to solution-related rates. Since equilibrium constants and rate laws were introduces in context with gases, one would think that the same relationship further applies to solutes, especially when there is a lack of warning against this exact practice on the book's part. In short, I have realized that the rate law is not what I have written.
 
Dissolution before saturation is not an equilibrium process, so the solubility products doesn't apply. Once the solution is saturated amount of solid (or rather its surface) doesn't matter, as both dissolution and precipitation occur at the same surface - so for both processes surface is identical.
 
Borek said:
Dissolution before saturation is not an equilibrium process, so the solubility products doesn't apply. Once the solution is saturated amount of solid (or rather its surface) doesn't matter, as both dissolution and precipitation occur at the same surface - so for both processes surface is identical.

Thank you Borek. I just looked up a textbook by Zumdahl and it had the same explanation.
 

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