Why is the approximation of small angles valid for cosine but not for sine?

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the validity of approximating small angles in trigonometric functions, specifically why the cosine function can be approximated while the sine function cannot in the same manner. The original poster notes that for small deviations, the cosine expansion is used, while the sine function is simplified to sin(a). However, another participant argues that both functions should retain their linear terms in small angle approximations, highlighting that neglecting the linear term for sine while keeping it for cosine is inconsistent. The correct expansions for small angles show that both sine and cosine should include linear terms for accuracy. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the importance of consistency in mathematical approximations for small angles.
mathfilip
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
Hi! I have a question about approximation of functions with small angles. I was looking through some notes from my teacher and didnt understand why the following approximation is valid. We have a system which is at equlibrium at an angle, say a. Now we wanted to se what happens with the equilibrim if we deviate from a, with a small angle say, n. All the calculations isn't necessary here so i cut them out.

He chooses to write cos(a+n) = cosa * cos n - sina * sin n, just by expanding.

However for sin(a + n) he just writes sin(a+n) = sin(a)

Can you please validate this and tell me why this is ok to do? I mean why we don't expand sin(a+n) in the same manner?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
If you check it and expand it yourself you get:

sin(a+n)=sin(a)cos(n)+sin(n)cos(a)

if N is small, Sin(n) is insignificant. let's just say close enough to 0. and using the same principle, if N is small, Cos(n) is close enough to 1. Think of the sin and cos curves for small values. This leaves you with;

sin(a+n)=sin(a)1+0cos(a) which therefore approximates to Sin(a) as stated.

All he has done is missed out the calculation because he knows something about the values of N for sin and cos when they are small.

Btw this should be in the maths section not the physics.

Hope this helped.

Si
 
I'm not sure this expansion is correct. If you want to expand for small n you have to keep all term that are linear in n. In the case of the sine this would be
\sin(a+n)=\sin(a)\cos(n)+\sin(n)\cos(a)\approx \sin(a) + n \cos(a)+ \mathcal{O}(n^2)

for the cosine it would be
\cos(a+n)=\cos(a)\cos(n)-\sin(a)\sin(n) \approx \cos(a) - n \sin(a)+ \mathcal{O}(n^2)

It is inconsistent to keep the linear term for the epxansion of the cosine but not the sine.
 
Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
TL;DR Summary: I came across this question from a Sri Lankan A-level textbook. Question - An ice cube with a length of 10 cm is immersed in water at 0 °C. An observer observes the ice cube from the water, and it seems to be 7.75 cm long. If the refractive index of water is 4/3, find the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. I could not understand how the apparent height of the ice cube in the water depends on the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. Does anyone have an...
Back
Top