Why is the curl of Biot-Savart Law equal to zero?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the curl of the magnetic field described by the Biot-Savart Law, specifically addressing why the curl appears to be zero in certain calculations despite the expectation of a non-zero result based on line integrals around specific paths. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification related to vector fields in electromagnetism.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant explains their understanding of the curl of a vector field and calculates it, expecting a non-zero result but obtaining zero instead.
  • Another participant suggests that the curl is zero everywhere except at the origin (r=0), prompting a reconsideration of the calculations.
  • A participant proposes that the behavior of the curl may resemble a unit impulse function due to its non-zero nature at the origin.
  • Another participant agrees, indicating that this aligns with the concept of an impulsive current density at r=0.
  • A further participant draws an analogy to electrostatics, discussing the divergence of the electric field and its behavior in relation to point charges and closed surfaces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the curl is zero everywhere except at the origin, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the calculations leading to the zero result and the implications of this behavior.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the definition of the curl and the specific conditions under which the calculations are performed, particularly the significance of the origin in the context of the Biot-Savart Law.

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My understanding of the curl of a vector field is the amount of circulation per unit area with a direction normal to the area. For the vector field described as \textbf{B} =\boldsymbol{\hat\phi} \frac{\mu_{0}I}{2 \pi r} I figured the curl would be something more like this, because it points in the vector normal to the rotation and in the direction of the current.

\nabla \times \textbf{B} = \boldsymbol{\hat{z}}\frac{\mu_{0}I}{\pi r^2}

But when I go to calculate the curl of it by hand, I get zero. I know this can't be the case because I can do the line integral around a circle of radius r @ z = 0 and get
\iint_{S} {\nabla \times \textbf{B}} \cdot d\textbf{S}=\oint_{C}\textbf{B} \cdot d\textbf{l} = \mu_{0}I

So I know the curl cannot be zero. But when I calculate by hand and by calculator, in cylindrical and cartesian coordinates, I get zero. Why is this the case? Am I doing the math wrong?
 
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It is zero everywhere except at r=0. Try doing a line integral around a path that does not enclose the origin.
 
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Ahh, that makes more sense. If the curl of B is zero everywhere except for r = 0, I'm guessing the magnitude is probably more in line with a unit impulse function, right?
 
Yes, which is what you would expect with an impulsive current density located at r=0.
 
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Note that we have an analogous situation in electrostatics, with the divergence of ##\vec E## and the integral of the flux of ##\vec E## over a closed surface. Consider a point charge and calculate ##\nabla \cdot \vec E## at any point where the charge is not located. Also calculate ##\oint {\vec E \cdot d \vec a}## for (a) a surface that encloses the charge, and (b) for a surface that does not enclose the charge.
 
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