Why is the potential changing in my electrochemical cell setup?

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The discussion revolves around measuring the potential of a gold electrode in phosphate buffer saline (PBS) using a multimeter with an Ag/AgCl reference electrode. Initially, the potential readings showed a consistent decrease over time, leading to concerns about the stability of the measurement. It was suggested that the system requires time to equilibrate, with some users recommending leaving the setup undisturbed for an hour to see if the drift diminishes. Further analysis pointed to potential causes for the drift, including the difference in ionic concentration between the PBS and the salt bridge, as well as the possibility of the reference electrode being damaged. A key insight was that the multimeter might be drawing current from the cell, causing polarization and affecting the potential readings. Recommendations included using a multimeter with higher impedance and taking readings more sparingly to minimize current draw.After trying a new solution and allowing for equilibrium, the user observed improved stability in the readings, with drift reduced to 2-3 mV over five minutes.
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I took some phosphate buffer saline(7.4) into a beaker, included a Au electrode and reference electrode (Ag/AgCl) and tried to measure the potential using multimeter. The temperature and pressure is assumable same. The multimeter shows the potential some milivolts but the potential is decreasing like every 2-3 seconds. I thought if temparature and pressure is not changed much it should be fixed... can someone explain the reason of potential change...
 
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In my experience (Ag/AgCl electrodes) the system needs time, up to a few hours, to equilibrate. Try leaving everything in place (with the power off) for an hour and see if the drift goes away.
 
@Andy, thanks for reply. I will try that...
 
Andy Resnick said:
In my experience (Ag/AgCl electrodes) the system needs time, up to a few hours, to equilibrate. Try leaving everything in place (with the power off) for an hour and see if the drift goes away.

still the drifting exists...can it be the reason that
The concentration of the PBS (does not contain NaCl) solution is 1M whereas the solution inside the salt bridge is 3 M NaCl.

If not, i guess may be the ref electrode is damaged some how...
 
neuro11 said:
still the drifting exists...can it be the reason that

I suspect that the problem with your setup is that your meter is continually drawing current from the cell and causing the cell to become polarized. It's only a small cell, you can't draw current without affecting the potential. Maybe if you only momentarily connect the meter to take a quick reading, then leave it disconnected from the cell for, say, 30 mins, before taking another reading might be an acceptable protocol (but I really don't know).

A multimeter with much higher impedance may be better, too.
 
NascentOxygen said:
I suspect that the problem with your setup is that your meter is continually drawing current from the cell and causing the cell to become polarized. It's only a small cell, you can't draw current without affecting the potential. Maybe if you only momentarily connect the meter to take a quick reading, then leave it disconnected from the cell for, say, 30 mins, before taking another reading might be an acceptable protocol (but I really don't know).

A multimeter with much higher impedance may be better, too.
thanks for the advice...
today i took new solution, immerged gold and ref. electrode, left them for hour for equilibrium and then took a 5 min reading. again left for another 20 min or so and took reading...in this way i received better reading...the drift is now 2-3 mv in those 5 mins reading. still acceptable for me.
But what surprising to me is, after that 5 min reading i disconnect the meter. so when i start taking reading again after 20 mins, the starting potential is lower then before. So my question what exactly was using my cell. as i have disonnected the meter the cell potential should not be used up right?
 
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