Why is the torque about R used in this problem?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of torque in a physics problem involving moments about point R. The user initially calculates the torque contributions from different forces but arrives at a value of x = 2.75m, which contradicts the mark scheme's answer of 3.25m. Confusion arises regarding the positioning of the boy and the box Q, particularly in how their torques are considered relative to point R. It is clarified that when x > 3, the torque from the boy is indeed clockwise, while for x < 3, the torque becomes anticlockwise due to the negative value. Ultimately, understanding the direction of torque based on the position relative to R is crucial for solving the problem correctly.
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So I let x be the distance from P.

I then considered moments about R and got this:

1) (40g)(x-3) = 40gx - 120g and this is anticlockwise
2) (30g)(0.5) = 15g and this is anticlockwise
3) (2.5g)(2) = 5g and this is clockwise

And then by equating clockwise and anticlockwise I get this:

40gx - 120g + 15g = 5g

40gx = 110g

x = 110/44
x = 2.75m

But the mark scheme says this is wrong? They've got it as 3.25m. This is what they used as moments about R:

(40g)(x-3) + (2.5g)(2) = (30g)(0.5)

I don't get how they can consider the boy and the box Q to be on the same side??
 
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trew said:
1) (40g)(x-3) = 40gx - 120g and this is anticlockwise
Is it?
trew said:
I don't get how they can consider the boy and the box Q to be on the same side??
When x>3 (40g)(x-3) is positive. Which way will the torque be?
 
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haruspex said:
Is it?

When x>3 (40g)(x-3) is positive. Which way will the torque be?

So when x>3, this will be on the right hand side of the point R making it clockwise, but why do I assume that the boy stands on the right hand side of R?
 
trew said:
why do I assume that the boy stands on the right hand side of R?
You are not making that assumption. When x > 3, the boy is on the right and the torque he exerts about the fulcrum is clockwise; when x < 3 the torque is still "(40g)(x-3) clockwise" because that value is negative, and a negative value for a clockwise torque means it is actually an anticlockwise torque, which it will be.
 
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