Why the determinant of a matrix is equal to its transpose

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The discussion revolves around understanding why the determinant of a matrix is equal to the determinant of its transpose, focusing on properties of determinants in linear algebra.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the reasoning behind the equality of the determinant of a matrix and its transpose, with some suggesting proving it through specific examples, such as a 2x2 matrix.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the concept, with some participants humorously engaging in the request for a rigorous proof. There are suggestions for inductive proofs and references to properties of permutations related to determinants.

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Some participants express confusion about the concept, while others emphasize the importance of understanding through examples and proofs. The discussion reflects a mix of humor and serious inquiry into the mathematical properties involved.

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I don't understand why the determinant of a matrix is equal to its transpose...how is this possible?


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If you mean the determinant of a matrix is equal to the determinant of the transpose, why do you think that's so impossible? Try and prove it.
 


ohhh it works o.o
can i see a rigorous proof of this?
 


Yes, if you have functioning eyes and someone shows you such a proof.
 


lol that's funny. What i meant is May you show me such a proof, please?
 


I might, if you prove it to yourself with a 2 x 2 matrix first.
A = [a b; c d] (this is in row-major order).
 


A = [a b; c d]
det (A) = ad-bc

A transpose = [a c; b d]
det A transpose = ad - bc = det A
 


In this case, a visual interpretation and the fact that you can take determinants along and row/column is usually a fair explanation.

For a possible proof, you can prove the determinant inductively for matrices of size n. Then you take the idea of permutations to swap rows/columns to show that it does not change the determinant. It should be straight forward from then on.
 


The proof is trivial:

If A is an n by n matrix, then:

\det(A) =\sum_{\pi}\operatorname{sign}(\pi)\prod_{i=1}^{n}A_{i,\pi(i)} (1)

The determinant of the transpose can thus be written as:

\det(A^{T}) =\sum_{\pi}\operatorname{sign}(\pi)\prod_{i=1}^{n}A_{\pi(i),i}

So, to prove that the determinant of the transpose is the same, we have move the permutation from the second index to the first in (1). We can do this as follows.

In the product, it doesn't matter in which order the matrix elements are multiplied:

\prod_{i=1}^{n}A_{i,\pi(i)} = \prod_{i=1}^{n}A_{\pi^{-1}(i),i}


Using that the sign of a permutation is the same as the sign of its inverse, gives:


\det(A) =\sum_{\pi}\operatorname{sign}(\pi^{-1})\prod_{i=1}^{n}A_{\pi^{-1}(i),i}


The set of all inverse permutations is the same as the set of all permuations, so we can write this as


\det(A) =\sum_{\pi}\operatorname{sign}(\pi)\prod_{i=1}^{n}A_{\pi(i),i}
 

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