Why Was My Work Calculation Incorrect?

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The discussion revolves around a misunderstanding of how to calculate work done by a force in physics. The original calculation incorrectly used cosine for the angle, leading to an answer of -162 J, while the correct answer was -94 J, which involved using sine. Participants clarified that the angle should be defined between the force vector and the displacement vector, which can affect whether sine or cosine is used in the calculation. There is a consensus that the student should address this confusion with the professor for further clarification. Understanding the correct application of trigonometric functions in work calculations is essential for accurate results.
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Homework Statement

On my exam, I got this problem wrong, which I believed was incredibly easy, and I don't know why it's wrong...

"A constant force of 25 N is applied as shown to a block which undergoes a displacement of 7.5 m to the right along a frictionless surface while the force acts. What is the work done by the force?"
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Homework Equations


W = F * S

The Attempt at a Solution


There is a displacement to the right, while the force vector is to the left, therefore work is in the negative.

displacement (s) = 7.5 m
F = 25 N (cos 30 degrees)

I chose cosine because we are only concerned for the x direction...which is adjacent to the angle of 30 degrees...

therefore
W = F * s = [25 N (cos 30)] * [-7.5 m]
W = -162 J

However the answe was -94 J...and this is because sine was used instead. Why? My professor didn't care to explain why...
 
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physlexic said:

Homework Statement

On my exam, I got this problem wrong, which I believed was incredibly easy, and I don't know why it's wrong...

"A constant force of 25 N is applied as shown to a block which undergoes a displacement of 7.5 m to the right along a frictionless surface while the force acts. What is the work done by the force?"
Juhnd9L.jpg


Homework Equations


W = F * S

The Attempt at a Solution


There is a displacement to the right, while the force vector is to the left, therefore work is in the negative.

displacement (s) = 7.5 m
F = 25 N (cos 30 degrees)

I chose cosine because we are only concerned for the x direction...which is adjacent to the angle of 30 degrees...

therefore
W = F * s = [25 N (cos 30)] * [-7.5 m]
W = -162 J

However the answe was -94 J...and this is because sine was used instead. Why? My professor didn't care to explain why...
I can only suggest you ask your professor what the answer would have been with an angle of 90 degrees.
 
are you agreeing that I was correct? because if so that's a whole letter grade I get back to my test if I can stump my professor and prove that I was right...and I help out my classmates with the same answer as me.

and that's true...because if it was 90 degrees no work would be done but since he used sine which equals 1 it's implying work was done...and a verticle force never causes a horizontal displacement.

I thought you also never use sine for work. I never came across a problem where you had to besides this one.
 
physlexic said:
are you agreeing that I was correct?
Yes.
physlexic said:
I thought you also never use sine for work.
It depends how you are defining the angle. What if F were dragging the block up against a vertical wall? Or if the given angle were measured against the vertical?
If you are defining the angle to be that between the force vector and the displacement vector then I agree. ##|\vec x.\vec y| = |\vec x|.|\vec y| |\cos(\theta)|##
 
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haruspex said:
Yes.

It depends how you are defining the angle. What if F were dragging the block up against a vertical wall? Or if the given angle were measured against the vertical?
If you are defining the angle to be that between the force vector and the displacement vector then I agree. ##|\vec x.\vec y| = |\vec x|.|\vec y| \cos(\theta)##

I see from your examples, it would make sense to use sine then in those situations.

thank you for the explanation. I suppose I will confront him about this, as nice as possible.
 
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