Will the maximum discharge current double for two parallel batteries?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of batteries connected in parallel, specifically regarding their maximum discharge current, and the implications of wire gauge on current capacity at different voltages. Participants explore the safety and performance aspects of using multiple batteries and the electrical characteristics of wiring.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires whether connecting two 3.7v 3500mah 18650 batteries in parallel would allow for a maximum continuous discharge of 20A, given that each battery has a maximum of 10A.
  • Another participant notes that while theoretically the maximum discharge could be 20A, practical issues such as differences in internal resistance and the necessity for equal voltage levels at connection could complicate this outcome.
  • There is a repeated question about the resistance of a 14 AWG wire carrying the same current at different voltages (12V vs 3.7V), with one participant asserting that wire resistance is independent of voltage but that current is affected by Ohm's law.
  • A later reply elaborates on the ampacity of 14 AWG wire, discussing how wire length and voltage drop can impact the voltage available to devices, raising concerns about whether devices will operate correctly at lower voltages due to resistance in the wire.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of connecting batteries in parallel, particularly regarding safety and performance. There is also a lack of consensus on the relationship between wire gauge, voltage, and current capacity, with some participants providing technical details while others seek clarification.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention factors such as internal resistance of batteries, the importance of equal voltage at connection, and the impact of wire length on voltage drop, which may not be fully resolved or agreed upon.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals involved in electronics, battery management, and electrical engineering, particularly those exploring practical applications of parallel battery configurations and wire selection for power delivery.

Panamanian
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Hello.

Say I have a high powered device that draws continuous 18A. 3.7v
And I have one 3.7v 3500mah 18650 with a maximum continuous discharge of 10A, I know the battery will overheat and will most likely get damaged or shorten its life, or even catch fire.

But If I have another battery (same model).
Now I have two 3.7v 18650 3500mah in parallel. Will the maximum continuous discharge be 20A? or same 10A?

Thanks in advance
 
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It is a bit tricky. If you connect them in parallel you should get 20 A, but there are some details that make it less safe than one can think.

First - it is not guaranteed each one gives exactly 10 A, as a lot depends on their internal resistance, which is never exactly the same. So, while getting 20 A you can in fact be getting 12/8 - with one batter being overloaded.

Second: they have to be connected when they are both charged to exactly the same voltage. Otherwise one will try to charge the other till their voltages are identical, and that's asking for troubles.

That being said, sometimes I fly my Sky Surfer with two 2.2 Ah batteries connected in parallel. While single one is enough in terms of the current, having 4.4 Ah gives twice the flight time.
 
Ok, thanks.

Another question, Will a wire (for example: 14 AWG) resist the same AMPs with 12v vs the same AMPs with 3.7v?

Thanks in advance.
 
Panamanian said:
Will a wire (for example: 14 AWG) resist the same AMPs with 12v vs the same AMPs with 3.7v?

No idea what you mean.
 
Panamanian said:
Another question, Will a wire (for example: 14 AWG) resist the same AMPs with 12v vs the same AMPs with 3.7v?

If I interpret this correctly the resistance of the wire is independent of the voltage across it. However using 12V for a given wire length will produce more current according to Ohm's law.

A particular type and gauge wire as a copper 14 AWG is rated to carry a maximum current depending on a particular maximum wire temperature , the insulation and ambient temperature, called its ampacity.. For #14 it is 20 amps for 90 deg C in an ambient temp of 30 deg C. See http://www.usawire-cable.com/pdfs/nec ampacities.pdf for a chart for various gauges.

A consideration of what gauge wire you choose and its length to and from the the source will depend on how much voltage drop on the wire you can tolerate. Another way to think about it is how much less voltage than the 3.7 V your device is spec'd for will be acceptable. Will it run properly at 3.4V for example? Take #14 wire at 18 A. The wire has a resistance of .00252 ohms/ft. which seems small. If you use 10 ft of wire (5 to the device and 5 back to the battery) the voltage available to your device will be 3.7V (battery voltage) - 10ft×.00252ohms/ft×18A (voltage drop across the wire) = 3.25V(voltage available for your device) Will you device run properly at this voltage? If not then you need to shorten the wire or use a lower gauge.
 

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