Working out support reaction of a frame - Statics

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The discussion revolves around calculating the horizontal reaction at point B (Bx) in a frame structure using equilibrium equations. Initially, the user faced difficulties as Bx seemed to cancel out during calculations. After analyzing the moments about point C, they realized that Bx does not need to be included in that equation, leading to the correct conclusion that Bx equals -57 kN. The clarification highlighted that member BC, being a 2-force member, does not produce a moment about point C. This understanding resolved the user's confusion just before their upcoming exam.
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Homework Statement



For the frame shown (see attached picture) , work out the horizontal reaction at B (ie find Bx)

Homework Equations



EQUILIBRIUM EQUATIONS:

sum of moment = 0 (CCW is positive)
sum of vertical forces = 0 (up is positive)
sum of horizontal forces = 0 (left to right is positive)

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought this was easy but for some reason everytime I equate the forces, Bx gets canceled out.

[sum of moments at A = 0];
-38(0.6) + By(0.3) = 0
By = 76 kN

[sum of moments at B = 0];
-Ay(0.3) + 38(0.6) = 0
Ay = 76 kN

[sum of moments at D = 0];
Ax(0.6) + Bx(0.6) + By(0.3) = 0 (***)

[sum of moments at C = 0];
(-38)(0.2) + Ax(0.4) + Bx(0.4) = 0

so, Ax = 19 - Bx

substitute Ax = 19 - Bx in (***) :
(19 - Bx)(0.6) + Bx(0.6) + By(0.3) = 0

but By = 76 kN so:

(19 - Bx)(0.6) + Bx(0.6) + 76(0.3) = 0

BUT Bx just cancels out??

I have no clue how to approach this question any other way
Any help/guidance would be great!
Thanks!

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I got it :)
I realized that when taking the moment about C, the force Bx does not need to included.
So Bx = -57 kN
 
Kasthuri said:

Homework Statement



For the frame shown (see attached picture) , work out the horizontal reaction at B (ie find Bx)


Homework Equations



EQUILIBRIUM EQUATIONS:

sum of moment = 0 (CCW is positive)
sum of vertical forces = 0 (up is positive)
sum of horizontal forces = 0 (left to right is positive)

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought this was easy but for some reason everytime I equate the forces, Bx gets canceled out.

[sum of moments at A = 0];
-38(0.6) + By(0.3) = 0
By = 76 kN

[sum of moments at B = 0];
-Ay(0.3) + 38(0.6) = 0
Ay = 76 kN

[sum of moments at D = 0];
Ax(0.6) + Bx(0.6) + By(0.3) = 0 (***)

[sum of moments at C = 0];
(-38)(0.2) + Ax(0.4) + Bx(0.4) = 0
NO. By produces a moment also.


Kasthuri said:
I got it :)
I realized that when taking the moment about C, the force Bx does not need to included.
So Bx = -57 kN
What you mean to say is that since member BC is a 2-force member with the force BC directed along the axis, then the force BC produces no moment about C.
 
Thanks for that PhanthomJay! :) My exam is very very soon and I'm glad you cleared that up for me.
 
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