Would He3 make fusion easier? :- Can a fusion rocket launch from Moon?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using Helium-3 (He3) for fusion energy, particularly in the context of launching fusion rockets from the Moon. Participants explore the theoretical advantages and practical challenges associated with He3 fusion compared to other fusion reactions, such as Deuterium-Tritium (D-T) fusion.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that He3 fusion is often portrayed as an attractive energy source due to its aneutronic nature, but this is challenged by others who argue that D-He3 reactions still produce neutrons through D-D reactions.
  • It is noted that D-He3 fusion has a smaller cross-section than D-T fusion, making it harder to initiate, which raises questions about its practicality.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of mining lunar rocks for He3, given its low abundance and the significant effort required for extraction.
  • One participant emphasizes that D-T fusion is currently the easiest reaction to achieve, casting doubt on the net positive potential of He3 fusion.
  • There is skepticism about the idea of establishing a factory on the Moon or Mars to produce rocket propellant from He3, with one participant describing it as preposterous for the foreseeable future.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the viability and practicality of He3 fusion compared to D-T fusion. There is no consensus on whether He3 fusion can be a feasible energy source or whether the concept of lunar mining for He3 is realistic.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the assumptions about fusion reactions, the practical challenges of He3 extraction, and the current state of fusion technology. Participants do not resolve these issues, leaving them open for further exploration.

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Is He3 on the Moon? Does it help fusion? Can a He3 fusion rocket work? Would the Moon be a good place to launch?
Heard talk about He3 on the Moon and launching a fusion rocket. Is this all just a mashup of Sci-fi ideas?
 
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There is this idea that you often see that He3 makes fusion energy much more attractive, because the D-He3 reaction generates only charged particles and no neutrons, and therefore generates no radioactivity. This is false, because a D-He3 plasma would also generate D-D reactions, which do generate neutrons, as well as generate T, which fuses with D to generate even more neutrons. Also, the D-He3 reaction has a smaller cross-section than the D-T reaction, meaning that D-He3 fusion is harder to intiate than D-T fusion, which we have not yet managed to make practical despite decades of trying. In addition, mining lunar rocks for their tiny fraction of He3 would be a huge undertaking. So the idea that we will go to the moon, pick up some He3 which is lying around, and fusion will then be this wonderful energy source that will save the world and allow us to build fusion rockets is just what you said, "a mashup of Sci-Fi ideas".
 
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D-T is by far the easiest reaction. It's unclear if fusion using He-3 can be net positive at all, and even if it can it's much harder than D-T fusion. And that's for power plants. For a rocket you would make it mass-efficient as additional requirement.

He-3 + He-3 -> He-4 + 2 p + 13 MeV is a possible aneutronic fusion reaction.
 
phyzguy said:
There is this idea that you often see that He3 makes fusion energy much more attractive, because the D-He3 reaction generates only charged particles and no neutrons, and therefore generates no radioactivity. This is false, because a D-He3 plasma would also generate D-D reactions, which do generate neutrons, as well as generate T, which fuses with D to generate even more neutrons. Also, the D-He3 reaction has a smaller cross-section than the D-T reaction, meaning that D-He3 fusion is harder to intiate than D-T fusion, which we have not yet managed to make practical despite decades of trying. In addition, mining lunar rocks for their tiny fraction of He3 would be a huge undertaking. So the idea that we will go to the moon, pick up some He3 which is lying around, and fusion will then be this wonderful energy source that will save the world and allow us to build fusion rockets is just what you said, "a mashup of Sci-Fi ideas".
I find the idea that somehow a factory could be sent to on the Moon or Mars, and come up with finished rocket propellant to be preposterous, at least for a long, long, LONG time. I guess the folks at NASA need to have something to dream about without spending the enormous amount of cash to actually do something.
 

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