Carnot Efficiency of a heat engine

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To calculate the Carnot efficiency of a heat engine, knowledge of the temperatures of the hot and cold reservoirs is essential. The actual efficiency of the engine, calculated as 75%, is derived from the work done relative to the total energy input. Without the temperatures, it is impossible to determine the Carnot efficiency, which is defined as (Thot - Tcold) / Thot. The discussion emphasizes that the heat exhausted to the cold reservoir does not represent the energy output of the engine. Understanding these principles is crucial for accurately assessing engine efficiency.
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My problem only gives me joules to work with. Is it possible to convert from joules of energy to temperature (Kelvin)?? If so how?
 
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Best to state the problem. Maybe we can see a way around it.
 
An engine transfers 2.00x10^3 Joules of energy from a hot reservoir during a cycle and transfers 1.50x10^3 Joules as exhaust to a cold reservoir. Find the actual efficiency of the engine and then compare it to the carnot efficiency.

The actual efficiency is 75% I calculated. For carnot efficiency i need temperature, but I don't know how to get it.
 
Your calculation of the efficiency is wrong. Also, if you don't have the temperature of the reservoirs, you can't get the Carnot efficiency.
 
The actual efficiency of the engine

\epsilon=\frac{work \; done \; by \; the \; engine}{total \; energy \; used \; by \; it}
 
My book says (efficiency=energy output/energy input)
Which would give me 75% I believe.
So there is no way to get the carnot efficiency?
 
The engine extracts energy between the input and output reservoirs of the engine, this it converts into work. Look in the section on the 2nd law of Thermodynamics how to convert the transferred heat to temperatures.
 
The 75% is the Carnot engine's efficiency.
 
Hmmm interesting. My book does not go into depth very much, because I am in a survey class, so I don't understand how you could calculate it without having your temperatrure. The only equation I got in my book for carnot efficiency is
carnot efficiency=(Thot-Tcold)/ Thot
 
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For a Carnot engine it is assumed that all of the extracted heat, QH - QL (high, low), is converted into work by the engine, so that its efficiency is given by

\epsilon=\frac{Q_{H}-Q_{L}}{Q_{H}}
 
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Basic_Physics said:
For a Carnot engine it is assumed that all of the extracted heat, QH - QL (high, low), is converted into work by the engine, so that its efficiency is given by

\epsilon=\frac{Q_{H}-Q_{L}}{Q_{H}}
W = Qh-Ql for any heat engine. So this is the definition of efficiency for any heat engine. To calculate the Carnot efficiency, the maximum efficiency of any possible heat engine operating between these two reservoirs, you would need to know the temperatures, Th and Tc.

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AlaskanPow said:
My book says (efficiency=energy output/energy input)
Which would give me 75% I believe.
So there is no way to get the carnot efficiency?
The heat exhausted to the cold reservoir is not the energy output of the heat engine.
 
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