Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the concept of incompressibility in fluids at low Mach numbers, exploring whether this implies that the flow is incompressible or that the fluid itself maintains constant density. Participants examine the implications of incompressibility in both theoretical and practical contexts.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants question whether low Mach numbers imply that the flow is incompressible (zero material derivative) or that the fluid itself is incompressible (constant density).
- One participant suggests that if a material is truly incompressible, the velocity of sound would be infinite, raising questions about the assumptions behind the original statement.
- Another participant argues that while no fluid is truly incompressible, for practical purposes, fluids like water can be treated as incompressible under certain conditions, particularly when considering sound speed.
- A detailed explanation is provided regarding the Lagrangian and Eulerian frames of reference, discussing how compressibility can be defined and related to pressure changes and density variations in fluid flows.
- It is proposed that a flow is considered incompressible when the relative density change is much less than one, with a relationship established between Mach number and density change.
- One participant concludes that for Mach numbers less than 0.3, the density change can be effectively ignored, suggesting that the fluid behaves incompressibly in such cases.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the implications of low Mach numbers for fluid incompressibility, with no consensus reached on whether it refers to flow characteristics or fluid properties. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and implications of incompressibility.
Contextual Notes
Limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of compressibility and the assumptions made regarding fluid behavior under varying conditions. The discussion also highlights the complexity of relating Mach number to density changes without reaching definitive conclusions.