Electric Circuit Analysis: Calculating power absorbed/supplied by each element

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The discussion focuses on the calculation of power in an electric circuit, specifically addressing confusion around the use of negative current and the value of 5A in the textbook example. Participants clarify that the negative current indicates the direction of flow, and the value of 5A is defined in the circuit diagram. There is also a distinction made between the currents in different branches, emphasizing that the current through p3 is not the same as that through p2. The importance of properly referencing textbook diagrams for clarity is highlighted, as well as the need for accessible resources. Overall, the conversation aims to clarify the principles of dependent sources and power calculations in circuit analysis.
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Once again, my textbook seems to do a poor job of explaining another concept just like I commented earlier here. Anyways, here is the relevant part of the textbook: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?cw5t2wr9vqqprnv

To calculate p4 in example 1.7, voltage of 8V is multiplied by a current of -0.2I. Firstly, why is the current negative? Secondly, why do they substitute a value of 5A for I. Where did they get this value?

I tried to do practice problem 1.7, but I don't seem to get the right answer for p3 when I use a voltage of 3V and a current of 0.6(3)A.
 
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Because the dependent current source is supplying the power. So current flows from its positive to its negative. But when you calculate power of a branch you take the current value (which is to be multiplied) same as what will be entering the branch from positive.

They defined the dependent power that way. What ever will be the I (which is going through p1 brance) will be multiplied by 0.2 and that will be the current coming out of dependent source.
 
Kholdstare said:
Because the dependent current source is supplying the power. So current flows from its positive to its negative. But when you calculate power of a branch you take the current value (which is to be multiplied) same as what will be entering the branch from positive.

They defined the dependent power that way. What ever will be the I (which is going through p1 brance) will be multiplied by 0.2 and that will be the current coming out of dependent source.

Where did they get 5 from?
 
Well it says on your diagram I = 5 amps.

Incidentally, I cannot acces your link on my ofice computer, so others may well have the same problem.

It is better to post the doc or image here at PF, and also to properly reference the book as others may have it.

You will also likely receive more attention that way.
 
Studiot said:
Well it says on your diagram I = 5 amps.

Incidentally, I cannot acces your link on my ofice computer, so others may well have the same problem.

It is better to post the doc or image here at PF, and also to properly reference the book as others may have it.

You will also likely receive more attention that way.

I don't have time to do that at the moment as I'm heading to school right now, but isn't it 5 amps for only p2? For p3, it's 6 amps.
 
tahayassen said:
Where did they get 5 from?

Read "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependent_source" .

The value of the second current source is not constant, but changes when the current through p2 branch changes (and the proportionality constant is 5).

tahayassen said:
I don't have time to do that at the moment as I'm heading to school right now, but isn't it 5 amps for only p2? For p3, it's 6 amps.

The I indicated in the figure defines the current through p2, not p3. Whatever is the value of current through p3 it will not necessarily be same as p2.
 
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Kholdstare said:
Read "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependent_source" .

The value of the second current source is not constant, but changes when the current through p2 branch changes (and the proportionality constant is 5).
The I indicated in the figure defines the current through p2, not p3. Whatever is the value of current through p3 it will not necessarily be same as p2.

Ohh! I get it now! I feel so stupid. For some reason, I thought of I as the current flowing through p4 instead of thinking of I as a variable such as X that is clearly defined as 5A in the top left of the diagram. I'm so stupid. :blushing:
 
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