Torque and angular momentum with ball shot into air

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular momentum and torque of a ball shot vertically upward. To find angular momentum about point P, the participants emphasize using the formula l = r × p, where r is the distance from the launch point to point P. They discuss determining the maximum height using kinematics and the gravitational force acting on the ball. The torque is calculated using the formula Torque = r × F × sin(theta), with participants debating the correct angle theta derived from the ball's height and horizontal distance to point P. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly identifying r and theta to solve the problem accurately.
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A 0.380 kg ball is shot directly upward with an initial speed of 38.5 m/s. What is its angular momentum about point P, at a horizontal distance of 1.85 m from the launch point, when the ball is at its max height? Halfway back to the ground? What is the torque on the ball about point P due to the gravitational force when the ball is at its max height? Halfway back to the ground?

Where should I begin?
 
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The angular momentum of a particle wrt to a point would be
l=r \times p.
So, what do you need to find first to find the angular momentum?
 
to find angular momentum when the object is halfway back to the ground, should i use the velocity at that point? and to find r, would i use the hypotenuse of the height of the object and the distance the object is from P?
 
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I have this exact same question on a problem due tonight. Only difference is my initial velocity is 41.0m/s and point P is 2.05m from the base of the launch point and the mass is 0.360kg.

I used kinematics to find the maximum height:
v^2 - v0^2 = 2*a*D
0 - 41^2 = 2 * (-9.8) * D
D = 85.7m

I'm solving the torque one first.

Torque = rxF = r * F * sin theta

F in this case, in the problem they are defining it as the gravitational force which would be mg = 0.360 * 9.8 = 3.52N

Now, we need to find r.

That would be pythagorean theorem...sqrt ( 2.05^2 + 85.7^2 ) = 85.789m..

So we have mg * r = 0.360 * 9.8 * 85.789 * sin theta

I keep getting the problem wrong because I think I am getting the wrong value of theta?

Theta is the tan inverse of (2.05 / 85.7), right?

Here's an image:
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I believe the angle should be tan^(-1)(y/x) so its your max height over your distance to point p
 
Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
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