Solution to Finding Volume of Solid Using Calculus

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid defined by the equations x² + y² = 9 and y² + z² = 9. Participants are exploring the geometric interpretation of the solid and its volume calculation using calculus, particularly multiple integrals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss initial assumptions about the shape of the solid, with some believing it to be a sphere and others clarifying that it is the intersection of two cylinders. There is exploration of using the shell method and multiple integrals, with questions about the limits of integration and the setup of the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on sketching the solids to understand their overlap and suggested evaluating the volume in cylindrical coordinates. There is ongoing exploration of the appropriate limits for integration and the interpretation of the solid's shape.

Contextual Notes

Participants are currently studying multiple integrals and polar integration, which may influence their approach to the problem. There is a noted confusion regarding the limits of integration and the complexity of the resulting integrals.

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Homework Statement


Find the volume V of the solid bounded by the graph
x2+y2=9 and
y2+z2=9


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The Attempt at a Solution


When I started this problem, I thought it was a perfect sphere with the center points (0, 0, 0). And then I thought, "Why do I need calculus, it's 4/3*pi*r3, right?" So I plugged it into the calculator and got 36pi. Then I thought... maybe that's not such a good idea.

Then I thought about doing the shell method, and multiplying it by two. But this is all under the assumption that I'm working with a sphere.

The hint I was given is to do it in the first octant, then multiply by 8. I thought about integrating the areas I was given (xy, yz), and then cross them to get xz, but after that, I'm lost. Do I multiply all of them to get the area, and then multiply by 8?

I am currently in the chapter dealing with multiple integrals and polar integration, if that is any help.
 
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Well you have the equations of the solid. Note that in both cases, one variable is missing. That means that it can take on any value and the solid formed would be parallel to the axis of that particular free variable. Just sketch the two solids and see where they overlap. That is the required volume. Just to note, it's not a sphere. Now what have you learned about finding the volume of a given region by multiple integrals?
 
Defennder said:
Well you have the equations of the solid. Note that in both cases, one variable is missing. That means that it can take on any value and the solid formed would be parallel to the axis of that particular free variable. Just sketch the two solids and see where they overlap. That is the required volume. Just to note, it's not a sphere. Now what have you learned about finding the volume of a given region by multiple integrals?

A rough pencil sketch gets me cube-like shape that's getting rounder.

The volume is a triple integral. V=\int\int_D\int dV.

I'm having trouble determining the limits, or setting up the problem for that matter.
V = \int_0^3\int_0^{\sqrt{9-x^2}}\int_0^{\sqrt{9-y^2}}dz dy dx?
 
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Those, separately, are cylinders. The region you are asking about is the intersection of two cylinders. It definitely is not a sphere.
 
lalah said:
V = \int_0^3\int_0^{\sqrt{9-x^2}}\int_0^{\sqrt{9-y^2}}dz\,dy\,dx\;?

This is the volume of one octant of your shape.
 
lalah said:
A rough pencil sketch gets me cube-like shape that's getting rounder.

The volume is a triple integral. V=\int\int_D\int dV.

I'm having trouble determining the limits, or setting up the problem for that matter.
V = \int_0^3\int_0^{\sqrt{9-x^2}}\int_0^{\sqrt{9-y^2}}dz dy dx?

I have this same problem on my work. I got those limits and ended up with some crazy integral by the time i got to dx that I couldn't make sense of it anymore.
 
You might want to evaluate it in cylindrical coordinates instead.
 
Fix a value of y. Then x^2=9-y^2 and z^2=9-y^2. So both x and z range from -sqrt(9-y^2) to +sqrt(9-y^2). I.e. for fixed y the x-z cross-section is a SQUARE. That's the easy way to do it. And explains your "cube-like shape that's getting rounder".
 

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